kgg Report post Posted March 1, 2023 My journey on deciding / selecting a 441 class machine to add to my collection. I wanted to use and have the ability to use heavier thread in thicker / tougher material then what a 1341 class cylinder arm would allow for. Initially I thought of getting one those one armed bandits that can handle what I thread and thickness I wanted. I thought long and hard and almost bought one but it finally came down too one question for me. Would I be pleased with a one armed bandit and get the use out of the machine. The answer for me was a NO just too much work for me, a short fat guy. I then moved onto looking at the class 441 machines. First I looked at the 9" cylinder arm machines. The downside for me of those machines was the 9 inch arm which in reality has a shorter work surface then 9 inches. With my luck I would need a 1/4" more usable space. Then I moved onto the big boys 25 inch cylinder arm machines but decide against those as I figured the length of the cylinder arm was just overkill for what I would ever want to sew. I eventually decided on a 16 1/2 inch cylinder arm class 441 machine with a 1hp servo motor, 3:1 speed reducer and a non-pedestal stand. The machine will arrive shortly. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rubicon04 Report post Posted March 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, kgg said: I eventually decided on a 16 1/2 inch cylinder arm class 441 machine with a 1hp servo motor, 3:1 speed reducer and a non-pedestal stand. The machine will arrive shortly. kgg Which company did you choose to supply your 441? I just placed an order for a CB4500 from Bob over the weekend. Pumped to learn how to use it and hopefully pick up some efficiencies with bag making. I also picked up the HE Precision Xtreme Narrow Needle Plate and Feed Dog setup and Narrow presser foot setup. Bob is going to be installing these and setting the machine up with 138 thread before shipping out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rubicon04 said: Which company did you choose to supply your 441? I just placed an order for a CB4500 from Bob over the weekend. Pumped to learn how to use it and hopefully pick up some efficiencies with bag making. I also picked up the HE Precision Xtreme Narrow Needle Plate and Feed Dog setup and Narrow presser foot setup. Bob is going to be installing these and setting the machine up with 138 thread before shipping out. Nice setup, you should be pleased when you get your CB4500 machine from Bob. I went with a KOBE TSC-441 as I have been pleased with the before and after sales service of the machines I have purchase from them. I will do the drive to pick the machine up since they are only 3.5 hours away so it will only cost me some time (free) and maybe $60 in gas in my Honda Fit. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted March 1, 2023 Well done both of you. There's something surreal about owning a brute of a machine that can punch through almost anything you can get under the feet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonInReno Report post Posted March 2, 2023 Having the ability to sew thicker thread definitely expands the projects you’ll dream up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted March 2, 2023 16 hours ago, dikman said: Well done both of you 25 minutes ago, DonInReno said: Having the ability to sew thicker thread definitely expands the projects you’ll dream up! Thank you. Got a couple of projects just itch'n to do. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
