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Hi,

I was offered to buy this machine used from a mechanic. I know that there a lot of people of the forum that have a lot of experience with them. I would love any opinions on the condition, what to look for, information on the sub class. It looks like it-s a 335 G 113. Here are the pictures I was sent. Any opinions/information would be greatly appreciated. 

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The G means it has a bigger hook and bobbin. Other than that, someone else will certainly chime in.

 

EDIT: Here's a more modern 335 set up for binding. It says it'll handle up to 207 thread, so I like that.

https://sunnysewingcenter.com/index.php/product/pfaff-335-single-needle-cylinder-arm-walking-foot-sewing-machine-for-binding/

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26 minutes ago, AlZilla said:

The G means it has a bigger hook and bobbin. Other than that, someone else will certainly chime in.

 

EDIT: Here's a more modern 335 set up for binding. It says it'll handle up to 207 thread, so I like that.

https://sunnysewingcenter.com/index.php/product/pfaff-335-single-needle-cylinder-arm-walking-foot-sewing-machine-for-binding/

Is the 335 I have in the picture a binding machine?

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1 minute ago, nycgirl said:

Is the 335 I have in the picture a binding machine?

Yes. This machine is a synchronized binder machine. It is one of the best money can buy. Do you intend to sew items that require edge binding?

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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18 minutes ago, nycgirl said:

Is the 335 I have in the picture a binding machine?

No telling, for me,anyway. Apparently a binding machine has a different feed type and maybe other things I don't know about. There is not a binder on your potential machine that I see. The binder on the linked machine is all those cylindrical things on the cylinder arm between the needle and the pillar.

Evidently, the feed on a binding setup just goes back and forth without going up and down.

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11 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

Yes. This machine is a synchronized binder machine. It is one of the best money can buy. Do you intend to sew items that require edge binding?

@Wizcrafts , I'm curious if you knew just by the model number or if there's something you see that told you it's a binder?

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1 hour ago, nycgirl said:

Is the 335 I have in the picture a binding machine?

I not into pfaff's much . I thing that a G model does not necessarily make it a 'factory set-up' dedicated binding set-up on the 335 . You need pay attention to the feed dog movement, and if the needle-plate set-up, and feed dog, binding swing plate witnessed to move together .
The dedicated binding pfaff 335 has unison feed, but the feed dogs only move horizontal back and forth motion, with No Up Down oscillation moment.

( I  think ?? )  that if it is the normal unison feed 335. you can just change-out needle plate, dogs and feet to fit your needs .
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On 12/26/2023 at 9:21 PM, AlZilla said:

@Wizcrafts , I'm curious if you knew just by the model number or if there's something you see that told you it's a binder?

It already has the synchronized sliding plate and spring attached to the arm. All it needs if the actual folder part and a platter to hold the edge tape.

There have been other discussions about using a Pfaff 335 for standard sewing. It usually requires alterations to the feed dog. As is, the feeder is a flat, polished plate that moved forward and backward. The inside and outside feet will have a different shape than a standard sewing machine.

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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2 minutes ago, nylonRigging said:

( I  think ?? )  that if it is the normal unison feed 335. you can just change-out needle plate, dogs and feet to fit your needs

If that machine is a binder machine as built, there will not be any way to get 4 way motion on the feed dog. That motion is caused by cams that would likely be missing on a binder machine. It was not intended for normal sewing operations. I was offered a Pfaff 335 for a couple hundred bucks at the same time I bought a long arm big bobbin Singer patcher (over a decade ago). After seeing how strange the feed operated, I declined the Pfaff.

If you haven't bought the machine yet, ask the seller if the feed dog has normal up/down/forward/backward motion, or just forward/backward? It will be one or the other, not both..

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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4 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

If that machine is a binder machine as built, there will not be any way to get 4 way motion on the feed dog. That motion is caused by cams that would likely be missing on a binder machine. It was not intended for normal sewing operations. I was offered a Pfaff 335 for a couple hundred bucks at the same time I bought a long arm big bobbin Singer patcher (over a decade ago). After seeing how strange the feed operated, I declined the Pfaff.

If you haven't bought the machine yet, ask the seller if the feed dog has normal up/down/forward/backward motion, or just forward/backward? It will be one or the other, not both..

I just now noticed it say's H3 on the provided Pic. from OP . I think that the clue to dedicated binding model ? .. is that -H3 ?.. or is it a -113 on the plate #'s ???

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