Ferdinand Model Help

[mtchaps]

Have an older Ferdinand machine in our shop in Montana that we bought years ago, and we just aren't using. I'd like to sell it but I'm unable to find a model or serial number on the machine. Does anyone know where it would be located? 

Thank you in advance for any help.

[Constabulary]

can´t help with he model but it seems to be a needle feed only machine and the part on the plate kinda reminds me of a BUSMC #6 HM but this machine here has a barrel hook as it seems. I would guess it is a  "modern clone" or modernized model of a BUSMC #6 HM - kind of. Do you have pictures of the back side?

Quite interesting machine!

Edited February 29, 2024 by Constabulary

[kgg]

13 hours ago, mtchaps said:

I'd like to sell it but I'm unable to find a model or serial number on the machine.

To me it looks like a Ferdinand 900B Bull.

kgg

[mtchaps]

6 hours ago, Constabulary said:

can´t help with he model but it seems to be a needle feed only machine and the part on the plate kinda reminds me of a BUSMC #6 HM but this machine here has a barrel hook as it seems. I would guess it is a  "modern clone" or modernized model of a BUSMC #6 HM - kind of. Do you have pictures of the back side?

Quite interesting machine!

Appreciate it thank you 

5 hours ago, kgg said:

To me it looks like a Ferdinand 900B Bull.

kgg

thank you

[shoepatcher]

Ferdinand used both Adler 205-64 and Consew 754 heads to make the bull.  This one looks a lot like an Adler 205-64 except for the bobbin winder.  If so, $2500.00 all day long cleaned up.

glenn

 

Edited March 3, 2024 by shoepatcher
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[mtchaps]

3 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Ferdinand used both Adler 205-64 and Consew 754 heads to make the bull.  This one looks a lot like an Adler 205-64 except for the bobbin winder.  If so, $2500.00 all day long cleaned up.

glenn

 

thank you Glenn, I appreciate the help. I did post it on here for $2000 so we will see how it goes

[Old Coach Saddlery]

I believe you have a 900B bull. It should have a number stamped under the top inspection plate. That will have the production date and model number.

[mtchaps]

10 hours ago, Old Coach Saddlery said:

I believe you have a 900B bull. It should have a number stamped under the top inspection plate. That will have the production date and model number.

That's what I would have thought but no numbers on any of the plates. Appreciate the help

 

[Old Coach Saddlery]

So this is the Bull at my work. You can see it is a 900B and built in 1994. Numbers are on the body not the plate.

Edited March 4, 2024 by Old Coach Saddlery

[mtchaps]

2 hours ago, Old Coach Saddlery said:

So this is the Bull at my work. You can see it is a 900B and built in 1994. Numbers are on the body not the plate.

Right you are on location! Think I need better glasses as I must have overlooked it a dozen times. 901SO? 

[Old Coach Saddlery]

Interesting. Your machine is definitely a little different, with the front block above the needle and your throat plat is different. Also looks like a shorter clearance in the throat. If you really want answers I would contact Tony Luberto. He made the maintenance video for Ferdinand and was with the company for a number of years before going out on his own with the Windham Cub.

[Old Coach Saddlery]

I wonder if SO means special order. 

[mtchaps]

40 minutes ago, Old Coach Saddlery said:

I wonder if SO means special order. 

that's what I was thinking. Especially since I can't find anything exactly like it

[Old Coach Saddlery]

Does the block on the front have a purpose?

[mtchaps]

yes. it is a guide for a slide that moves in and out with the motion of the needle.

 

 

[Old Coach Saddlery]

I sent your pictures to Tony along with the model number. I couldn’t help but be curious since I own 2 Bull’s plus use one at my work. I’m a big fan. 
 

He told me it is a special square feed machine. I had to look up square feed not being familiar. He said they were not that popular. Hope that helps.

[mtchaps]

again, really appreciate your help. Thank you

 

[shoepatcher]

4 hours ago, Old Coach Saddlery said:

I wonder if SO means special order. 

That is what I am thinking.  They made an HL high lift version and a HHL  high high lift  version with I think a 1  3/8" clearance of lift.

glenn