cowboy outlaw roller guide question

[Damas]

Hi, being in France it's not easy to find parts and accessories for my CB3200.

Does anyone here can tell me if the cowboy outlaw heavy duty roller guide will fit my cb3200 ?

It's this guide https://www.buckleguy.com/heavy-duty-sewing-guide-for-bg-cowboy-outlaw-hand-operated-sewing-machine/?srsltid=AfmBOoonU5cm1FmPj1-4sV5qAnFb-FzI4iHyXL9UsjM42GdepeDWoSZ0

[Cumberland Highpower]

That's a pretty hard type of guide to find anymore. They used to be fairly common back in the days of the hook and awl hot wax machines.  I like that style and use them on a couple machines still.  Here in the US we have Toledo Industrial Sewing machine, in Toledo, that stocks that type for your Chinese clone. img_0173.jpg (800×600)  $95 US plus shipping.

This type will fit your machine, as its basically for any Juki TSC 441 clone.  (CB3200, CB4500, ETC).  The Cowboy outlaw guide also fits your CB3200 from what I've read.  If I were you, i'd order the type from Toledo Sewing machine, only becuase it allows some adjustment of the guide, front to back.  Every machine is built slightly different and you'll find yourself wanting to adjust/fine tune where the roller sits in relation to the feeding of the machine.  The Outlaw guide does not allow for this type of adjustment without moving the whole guide and even then no guarantee the slots cut into it allow enough front to back movement.

As an option, you could by a  drop roller guide from your own "country" the EU.   I just bought a guide for an Adler made in Grande Italia! Better quality than a Chicom guide. I believe your price for this type would be E53. I paid considerably more, but I also paid for Fed EX international express....I believe your shipping charge is also 6 euro if I remember correctly? 

The distributor I bought from uses "stripe" for credit cards or wire transfer for larger purchases in the thousands.  Tell them you're a business and you get a better price.

The company that I bought from is Silac, based in Italy, but they do have a French/English/Spanish/ROmanian language websites.

www.silacsew.com.   (.com/fr)

NS/127 | Suspended Edge Guide with Long Pin, Suitable for Most Machines # 6764/07-01 (Made in Italy) | Silacsew

You would also need a mounting bracket for your specific machine.  The CB3200 is a Juki TSC-441 clone, so you'd need a Juki Bracket.

The guides I brought up are made by SA.PE or Ditta SAPE,  in Italy.  Perhaps you do not like this type of guide? They make a WHOLE range of attachments, but SA.PE seems to operate the old fashioned Italian way, so the distributor is better service. SA.PE does have a catalog online but it's a dated affair.  They may make the type you're looking for as well, you'll have to find the catalog online and read through it.

Edited 14 hours ago by Cumberland Highpower

[CowboyBob]

4 hours ago, Damas said:

Hi, being in France it's not easy to find parts and accessories for my CB3200.

Does anyone here can tell me if the cowboy outlaw heavy duty roller guide will fit my cb3200 ?

It's this guide https://www.buckleguy.com/heavy-duty-sewing-guide-for-bg-cowboy-outlaw-hand-operated-sewing-machine/?srsltid=AfmBOoonU5cm1FmPj1-4sV5qAnFb-FzI4iHyXL9UsjM42GdepeDWoSZ0

Yes,this guide will work.The guide we sell is identical to the one in question & no guides I know of provide front to back adjustment (just the drop down has this feature) just left to right.The CB3200 uses a different casting than the 441's & does not have a flat machines spot to fasten a drop down edge guide.

[Cumberland Highpower]

3 hours ago, CowboyBob said:

 no guides I know of provide front to back adjustment (just the drop down has this feature) 

Maybe you didn't have your coffee yet Bob? I just barely had mine....

 The swing away roller guide pictured on your website for the CB4500 is adjustable front to back.  You see the Phillips screw that is holding down a piece of aluminum angle?  loosen the screw and the little angled piece can move fore and aft, allowing the roller to set in any position fore and aft.  

I have the same upper guide piece on one of my union lockstitches, and adjusted it 3/16" on Thursday. 

 

Kind of a bummer the CB3200 doesn't have a place to mount a drop down guide....I'm a little surprised to hear that part, considering the era we live in?

If I had been a purchaser of a CB3200 and found out It couldn't take a drop down roller guide, I'd probably feel a little, I don't know, short-changed?

Not directing that at you personally, I just mean it generally. Those CB's are sold around the world by lots of vendors. It's probably a real short list of NEW industrial unison feed machines out there that don't come drilled/tapped for a drop down guide of some sort....

Edited 11 hours ago by Cumberland Highpower

[Wizcrafts]

9 hours ago, Cumberland Highpower said:

 The swing away roller guide pictured on your website for the CB4500 is adjustable front to back.  You see the Phillips screw that is holding down a piece of aluminum angle?  loosen the screw and the little angled piece can move fore and aft, allowing the roller to set in any position fore and aft.  

I have the same upper guide piece on one of my union lockstitches, and adjusted it 3/16" on Thursday.

I have a CB4500 and it came with a t-bar bracket and roller guide. But, my roller guide has a cast or milled flange hanging down on the front edge. The flange stops the backward movement at about the center of the t-bar. It is not adjustable at all. I've had two ULS machines and neither of their roller edge guides were adjustable. They looked exactly like the one that came with my Cowboy, which was in 2012.