Discovered something new today: Renia Aquilim....Anyone use it in a glue machine?

[Cumberland Highpower]

Discovered something new today Renia Aquilium.  It's a water based contact cement made in Germany from what I see. 

I'm a little intrigued by it, but have not used it and curious if anyone here has?  Especially in a glue machine?

I have Potdevins that I use a thinned down latex based cement in, but am always looking for something new.
 

 

Edited Friday at 02:07 AM by Cumberland Highpower

[bruce johnson]

Rundi has used a bunch of it. It really works well. Key to using is like any contact cement - apply a thin layer to both sides. It maybe takes 10 minutes to tack and stick permanently, apply wetter to reposition. I never had a glue machine and she sure hasn't so can't say on that and don't know. You might be able to contact the rep and see if he knows. He's a good guy for technical support and sets up at the major leather shows in the US too. 

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[Cumberland Highpower]

Thanks for the reply Bruce.

Sounds like you have a little experience with it.  I read it has "no odor"  but I'm wondering about that.  Is it "no odor" or just "less odor"?

I'm using mostly DAP latex contact cement here, thinned down a little in my glue machines.  It's pretty tolerable to be around, but I'd stop short of calling it "low odor" and use it in a vented area.

Wonder how it compares?  Probably will order some to experiment with.

[Hildebrand]

@Cumberland HighpowerI use it and it is no odor.  The only negative I have had is sometimes it leaves a rubber cement like compound that balls up when you are trying to slick the edges.  I have not yet found a fix for that so I don't use it as often as I would like to because of the no odor.

Todd

 

[dikman]

I gather it's pretty good stuff and thought I'd give it a try - until I found out the price!! So I'm sticking to "regular" contact glue (as a bonus it makes me happy while using it ).

[bruce johnson]

40 minutes ago, dikman said:

I gather it's pretty good stuff and thought I'd give it a try - until I found out the price!! So I'm sticking to "regular" contact glue (as a bonus it makes me happy while using it ).

      After Barge changed their formula several years ago a neighbor and I switched to Renia's Colle De Cologne contact cement. We could get it dropped off by a salesperson on his route and bypassed all the shipping requirements. It is a great contact cement.  If you think most solvent based cements have an odor, this stuff makes them seem like kid's paste. No matter the time of year, I used it masked up, outside under an overhang, and hope there was about a 10 mile or better breeze. I couldn't even apply it and toss the pieces into the vent box in the shop without my wife smelling it in the house.  When my wife started doing leatherwork the Aquilim was just coming out. She had recently retired from 40 years of occupational exposure to xylene, acetone, and toluene. Going with Aquilim was a no brainer for her. 

[Cumberland Highpower]

14 hours ago, bruce johnson said:

  

15 hours ago, dikman said:

I gather it's pretty good stuff and thought I'd give it a try - until I found out the price!! So I'm sticking to "regular" contact glue (as a bonus it makes me happy while using it ).

I think you guys have convinced me, I'm going to order a gallon and see how it goes.   It's about 2x the cost of the latex weldwood from the sound of it? $100/gal

[Cumberland Highpower]

14 hours ago, bruce johnson said:

      After Barge changed their formula several years ago a neighbor and I switched to Renia's Colle De Cologne contact cement. We could get it dropped off by a salesperson on his route and bypassed all the shipping requirements. It is a great contact cement.  If you think most solvent based cements have an odor, this stuff makes them seem like kid's paste. No matter the time of year, I used it masked up, outside under an overhang, and hope there was about a 10 mile or better breeze. I couldn't even apply it and toss the pieces into the vent box in the shop without my wife smelling it in the house.  When my wife started doing leatherwork the Aquilim was just coming out. She had recently retired from 40 years of occupational exposure to xylene, acetone, and toluene. Going with Aquilim was a no brainer for her. 

I think I'll end up passing on that Colle De Cologne? LOL

I absolutely can't handle Barge.  Either the old or "new" formula.   I had to wear a respirator when I used it.  I'd pick about any other solvent based cement over it, I don't know why it's so popular, maybe tradition?

I'll send an email and see what they say about glue machines.  Seems like "glue machine" stumps everyone, so I wonder what they'll say?  I asked Potdevin once what I should use on thin leather and the told me there is no such glue for leather     I thought that was pretty ironic considering they actually market those machines on the website for "Paper, Cork, leather crafts, etc. 

[dikman]

Many many years ago I was making a wooden carrying case for a rifle and lined it with foam. I used Selley's contact cement (most commonly used contact glue then) to glue the foam and after spending a long time leaning over the case gluing it all in I was feeling very........strange! A salutary lesson about using such glues.