Walking foot

[Piko]

This is the foot my Sewing machine came with. My sewing machine is an Artisan 246. I cannot see the holes made by the machine well enough to backstitch right into them. Do I have options? Any suggestion to try out different feet? 

Thank you

[AlZilla]

A couple of rookie comments - that looks like a Singer 111W foot. Many machines use them and there are many variations available. Might be worth checking. 

Next, when I've read about machines bring adjusted to backstitch into the same holes, it's usually at a certain stitch length. Changing the stitch length, changes where it backstitches. Maybe this will cause one of the big dogs to jump in here and tell us if this applies to your machine.

[RockyAussie]

As @AlZilla says above this machine does use the same feet as a Singer 111W machine which has a huge variety of feet to pick from. That said if you need to see any better than the open toe center foot you already have you may be best to just widen the gap in it. I have seen where some people  have even cut one side of the center foot away all together. If you are doing veg work keep in mind that the less area that the foot covers the more it will leave feet marks. This following link shows a bit about the Cowboy CB246 I did awhile ago - 

 

 

[Piko]

21 hours ago, AlZilla said:

A couple of rookie comments - that looks like a Singer 111W foot. Many machines use them and there are many variations available. Might be worth checking. 

Next, when I've read about machines bring adjusted to backstitch into the same holes, it's usually at a certain stitch length. Changing the stitch length, changes where it backstitches. Maybe this will cause one of the big dogs to jump in here and tell us if this applies to your machine.

Thank you I'll look the 111W feet up!!

[Piko]

20 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

As @AlZilla says above this machine does use the same feet as a Singer 111W machine which has a huge variety of feet to pick from. That said if you need to see any better than the open toe center foot you already have you may be best to just widen the gap in it. I have seen where some people  have even cut one side of the center foot away all together. If you are doing veg work keep in mind that the less area that the foot covers the more it will leave feet marks. This following link shows a bit about the Cowboy CB246 I did awhile ago - 

 

 

Thank you! I've watched a video where the guy lifted the foot and lowered the needle to fit in the previous hole (like I see you do in this video as well) so I don't need a foo that lets me see better now. I'll look up the feet anyways to have them just in case. I see you swapped the feet when did the handle. Thank you again

[Tigweldor]

I would also look for a different bottom transporter - the hole in yours seems extremely large and with no sharp edges - when the needle penetrates through leather - it will push it into the very large hole and leave ugly dimples - like in your pic #5  that you posted in a different topic - the white bottom thread around the latch.

 

Edited Thursday at 12:44 PM by Tigweldor

[Piko]

11 hours ago, Tigweldor said:

I would also look for a different bottom transporter - the hole in yours seems extremely large and with no sharp edges - when the needle penetrates through leather - it will push it into the very large hole and leave ugly dimples - like in your pic #5  that you posted in a different topic - the white bottom thread around the latch.

 

That sounds like great advice. I didn't think I could change that hole. I have read elsewhere on this forum, which btw is amazing, and I have learned that I could change the pressure of the presser foot (of both presser feet actually) so I did and the dimple is much less noticeable. However, I would like to know hot to change the bottom transporter. I am not sure I know exactly what it is and, is it something I can do myself? Do you have any suggestion on where to find parts that work on my machine? I know it is aclone of a juki dsc246 but when I look on Amazon, ebay or jus tgoogle it nothing really comes up in terms of parts that I could be sure would be compatible. Thanks for your help. 

[RockyAussie]

47 minutes ago, Piko said:

That sounds like great advice. I didn't think I could change that hole. I have read elsewhere on this forum, which btw is amazing, and I have learned that I could change the pressure of the presser foot (of both presser feet actually) so I did and the dimple is much less noticeable. However, I would like to know hot to change the bottom transporter. I am not sure I know exactly what it is and, is it something I can do myself? Do you have any suggestion on where to find parts that work on my machine? I know it is aclone of a juki dsc246 but when I look on Amazon, ebay or jus tgoogle it nothing really comes up in terms of parts that I could be sure would be compatible. Thanks for your help. 

I don't know if this will load or not due to the size but if so on page 8 part 6 is a small rod which holds the feed dog up 1.2mm above the needle plate. I sanded mine down about .3mm. The feed dog has a little funnel at the top lip which you could sand away if you wanted to but does make it a little more dangerous for a beginner as the needle can sometimes go sideways and strike the side of the feed dog.

dsc246.pdf

[Doc Reaper]

Am I the only one that's afraid to download this??? Aw he'll it's Rocky Aussie, he's mostly safe

Edited Friday at 03:01 AM by Doc Reaper
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[Doc Reaper]

It's for a Juki, I thought there was a puppy 

[Piko]

23 minutes ago, Doc Reaper said:

It's for a Juki, I thought there was a puppy 

Lol

[Piko]

2 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

I don't know if this will load or not due to the size but if so on page 8 part 6 is a small rod which holds the feed dog up 1.2mm above the needle plate. I sanded mine down about .3mm. The feed dog has a little funnel at the top lip which you could sand away if you wanted to but does make it a little more dangerous for a beginner as the needle can sometimes go sideways and strike the side of the feed dog.

dsc246.pdf 5.11 MB · 7 downloads

Thank you for spending time to show me which part you were referring to. I see what you mean but, honestly, that’s way above my skill level. I’d have to stop drinking coffe for a week and loose about 100 lbs so my stubby fingers could even grab that pin.

i’ll look for alternatives for now but thanks again. 

[eblanche]

It looks like Juki makes a feed dog for thin needles for the 246: 21135108.

https://www.juki.co.jp/industrial_e/products_e/lether_e/cylinderbed_e/detail.php?cd=DSC-244_DSC-245_DSC-245-7_DSC-246_DSC-246-7_E

Even, both Jacksew and Universal sewing websites in the USA list the part. In stock at jacksew, order from Japan at U.S. Bad news: cost $200+.

There are several makers/dist. of 246 clones, you could try contacting them to see if they provide thin needle feed dogs.

 

[RockyAussie]

On 4/25/2025 at 1:04 PM, Doc Reaper said:

It's for a Juki, I thought there was a puppy 

Yeah sorry about that Doc, I will see if I can find ya a pic of my puppies but meanwhile whatcha think about this poor croc wanting to be all freindly...

Yamaha ha ha yay

Edited Saturday at 09:43 AM by RockyAussie

[Northmount]

On 4/24/2025 at 8:58 PM, Doc Reaper said:

Am I the only one that's afraid to download this??? Aw he'll it's Rocky Aussie, he's mostly safe

That's the only way you are going to be able to see what's in the PDF file.  And YES, Rocky is great.

[Piko]

On 4/25/2025 at 5:05 AM, eblanche said:

It looks like Juki makes a feed dog for thin needles for the 246: 21135108.

https://www.juki.co.jp/industrial_e/products_e/lether_e/cylinderbed_e/detail.php?cd=DSC-244_DSC-245_DSC-245-7_DSC-246_DSC-246-7_E

Even, both Jacksew and Universal sewing websites in the USA list the part. In stock at jacksew, order from Japan at U.S. Bad news: cost $200+.

There are several makers/dist. of 246 clones, you could try contacting them to see if they provide thin needle feed dogs.

 

Thanks for finding that. Yeah, $200 is not ideal but if it is what it is I am ok with buying that part. When I click the link it goes to the juki machine and not the part. Where did you find the part?

[eblanche]

14 hours ago, Piko said:

Thanks for finding that. Yeah, $200 is not ideal but if it is what it is I am ok with buying that part. When I click the link it goes to the juki machine and not the part. Where did you find the part?

You will have to search and order the part from one of their distributers or dealers. I do believe there are some dealer sponsors of this forum, leatherworker.net who work with Juki, but not positive. 

Where are you located?

[Northmount]

17 hours ago, eblanche said:

Where are you located?

According to the IP address @Piko is located near Santa Clara, California, 95052.

It's a good idea to list your approximate location in your profile.  It helps you get answers or help that is more likely to be relevant to your area.

 

[Piko]

21 hours ago, eblanche said:

You will have to search and order the part from one of their distributers or dealers. I do believe there are some dealer sponsors of this forum, leatherworker.net who work with Juki, but not positive. 

Where are you located?

Nord California. I found this on Ebay. Looks like what you are talking about. Does it look right?

3 hours ago, Northmount said:

According to the IP address @Piko is located near Santa Clara, California, 95052.

It's a good idea to list your approximate location in your profile.  It helps you get answers or help that is more likely to be relevant to your area.

 

Yes, I’ll do that, thank you.

[eblanche]

Ask the seller if they can tell you which exact Juki part (#) that feed dog is based off of. I have found Asian suppliers to be receptive of questions when asked on ebay.

[Tigweldor]

For 22,50$US you can´t do much wrong - at least the new feed dog in your pic has a sharper "tooth" and square edges around the needle hole compared to the one you are running now.

And looks different than the one from Kunpeng - which has a more oblong hole and wider thread channel - for bigger thread and needle size:

Edited 11 hours ago by Tigweldor

[RockyAussie]

14 hours ago, Piko said:

Nord California. I found this on Ebay. Looks like what you are talking about. Does it look right?

Yes, I’ll do that, thank you.

It would be a good idea to buy the full set and maybe even a couple of them. I like to have modified needle plates to do different jobs. For doing tighter gussets it helps to sand away the front edge of the needle plate and a little bit from the back as well. Be careful not to take to much off the back as the back foot needs something to come down on to hold the job securely. These 3 pics show what I mean  - 

The needle plate I have in my hand here has the left side tapered off for when I am sewing bag handles that have a lot of swell under them. This helps to keep the needle to come into the handle squarely and not come out of the edge. Hope that helps some.