info here on Bick-4

[pete]

the nice thing about it is that you can use it and you get the exact color right away..no waiting to darken,etc. If you don't like the result you can add chocolate or tobacco or dk. brown or whatever. It blends immediately.

Kinda like getting a too short haircut though. Once you darken it you can't lighten it again. as long as you mix the darker color with the Bick's it goes on evenly with no streaking.

As far as Esantoro goes- Bo mixes so much of the chocolate with the Bick that it has the consistency of water!Don't be afraid of thinning it. He uses a sponge inside what looks to be a nylon stocking and swipes it around the borders of his pieces. Gives a great effect like some of the motorcycle seats that I have been seeing here. Real dark around the border and lighter towards the center.

Hope that this helps.

By the way- anyone have an answer as to where I can get Chan Geer's lacing video. I too want to make some albums and notebooks with 2 colors like in his notebook video. Can't figure our how to do it, where to start and how to finish off the last loops.

pea-aire'

[Billsotx]

Y'all weren't kiddin' when you said "Orange"! Must be the wrong color tan in this bottle of Fiebings Brit Tan I'm using. I'll keep adding until I figure it out or run out of scrap. I'm on sample number 12 over two days and it ain't gettin' close to the straight tan straight out of the bottle. I am measuring the stuff so should I find the formula I may be able to repeat it.

[llucas]

Which Fiebings dye product is being mixed with Bick #4? Professional oil dyes; water-based; alcohol based?

[ichkraut]

I am brand new to leather work. I am very interested in this topic. I had a pair of boots made for me in Europe (alpine mountaineering boot with cleats and hobnails) and I am in the process of dying them. I used a deglazer first to remove the existing finish on the leather and I have put one coat of Fiebing's Professional Oil Dye in light brown on the boots. I am trying to accomplish a very lighter brown color. I have used Birk 4 a lot in the past on other boots I own and have a large 16 ounce bottle. Can I mix the Fiebing's Oil Dye with the Birk 4? The reason I ask is that the first coat of Fiebing's Oil Dye left the color uneven, except the tongue of the boot. I am hoping to even the dye this morning then work the Birk 4/Fiebing's Oil Dye mixture into the boots to get the even color I am looking for in the finished product. I can send photos if that helps.

Sorry I typed incorrectly, I meant Bick 4!

[ichkraut]

Here are some photos of my boots after deglazing and one coat of Fiebing's Light Brown Oil Dye that has been thinned with denatured alcohol at a ratio of 3 to 1 (3 parts dye to 1 part alcohol). The thinned dye was applied with a wool dauber. I am debating about putting a small amount of dye on a cotton rag and lightly touching up the lighter areas. Or blending some dye with Bick 4 and rubbing that it to even the color. What is everyone's thoughts?

I plan on putting Bick 4 on the boots after the dying phase, then coating the boots with Fiebing's Snow Proof Water Protector to waterproof and seal the boots.

[ichkraut]

I am trying to upload the photos again of the boots I am working on.

[club49]

YOU SHOULDN't use more then a few drops of the dye with the Bick 4.More is not better in this case.The pigment from tIhe dye will lay on top.I think Springfield Leather did a video on it.

Jim