any experience with Jackware?

[pepin1948]

Alright already I'm going to have to show my ignorance: WHAT THE HECK IS A BLACKJACK?

[MatthewD]

A small hard piece of leather that is used to "knock" people out

[whinewine]

Hey Russ,

Thanks for the info. Does MIWL have a online archive? Or can I con someone into scanning me a copy?

By the way, it's a pleasure to meet a real published author. I always heard that they can be kinda tempremental.

Steve: MIWL has been out of business for some years, so I don't think there is an online archive out there, but I may be wrong- who knows, someone may have compiled one! I do know that MIWL had compiled lists of articles by year when they were still publishing, but I don't have them handy- a number of my selections of MIWL magazines deteriorated over the years (I, having gone on to several different careers, totally away from leather, made 3 or 4 house moves... the magazines mostly ended in storage in excessively damp or dry or mouse infested surroundings). Some of my issues had totally gone to dust or had been gnawed so completely by rodents that they had to be thrown away. The remaining magazines I treasure- it was an interesting time then, & to look through the magazines & hear my older son say that something we did then is now 'so in', so current... (Ah, but enough of the 'good old days', that weren't, really particularly good...).

And no, I'm not really temperamental, but I sometimes get really cranked over people getting all worked up over crap that doesn't really matter in the scheme of things & totally disregarding that which really matters- and then I vent!

Unfortunately, Steve, I don't have a scanner so I can't scan any of the articles, but I hope someone out there can help you out.

Wildrose:

a 'jack' is a leather container made to hold liquid, such as water (only for putting out fires, 'cause you couldn't drink it- otherwise you'd get typhoid or dysentery), or ale, or mead, (which you could drink, and did)

- it was generally lined with pitch, or beeswax to make it waterproof so your hard cost beer didn't dribble out all the little stitching holes & drip upon your trousers. While it may have been black, it has nothing in common with a 'blackjack'

[MatthewD]

Okay this has gotten me thinking about wanting to attempt to do this with a canteen or water container but how does it effect the taste of the water or other liquids contained in them?

[Johanna]

You can use this method:

http://leatherworker.net/hardenedleather.htm

Couir Boulli

and water tastes okay. The paraffin has to be just right, though, and alcohol will eat through the paraffin, so you can't rotate beverages.

Never tried it with Coke or Pepsi, but if it were cold, would probably be okay. Canteens made like this are not okay with coffee or anything hot, of course.

Johanna

[SteveJ]

Johanna maybe you can answer my question. I just read the thread on the hardened leather for armor, and the canteen. Would the canteen be considered Jackware? I guess I'm just trying to find what the true definition is.

I was also wondering if this is a guild craft , and if that could explain the lack of info on the web. I don't really know what the proper etiquette is for guilds, and I don't want to step on any toes.

Steve

[Jim M]

Here are a few sites I had bookmarked:

http://livinghistory.ie/modules.php?name=C...=showpage&pid=3

http://www.florilegium.org/files/BEVERAGES...ottles-msg.html

http://www.geocities.com/ladysveva/Leather...structions.html

http://www.byzantios.net/modar/jacks.htm

- Jim

[SteveJ]

Here are a few sites I had bookmarked:

http://livinghistory.ie/modules.php?name=C...=showpage&pid=3

http://www.florilegium.org/files/BEVERAGES...ottles-msg.html

http://www.geocities.com/ladysveva/Leather...structions.html

http://www.byzantios.net/modar/jacks.htm

- Jim

This is the kind of info I was looking for on the web, and was having little success. Just have to know where to look I guess. Thank you most kindly Jim. I appreciate all the guidance I can get.

Steve

[Johanna]

SteveJ- I dug out all my magazines, and I don't have the two issues mentioned. Since they are all spread out on the floor at the moment (and my third grader is arranging them in chronological order) I will post a list of what I do have for future reference.

Johanna

[David Genadek]

All my slave labor has gone off to school ....sigh

David Genadek