Members whinewine Posted December 27, 2007 Members Report Posted December 27, 2007 Jim Linnell sent me some of Tandy's new modeling tools for prizes for our current carving contest. nother of them is called a small/large undercut. It isn't real sharp, but I don't think it would take much to make it work like a Pro Petal tool. The tools look like they will work really well for a lot of different things so you might want to check them out. I have heard a few other people that have them say they work a lot better than the old versions. Clay, I would be concerned about sharpening the double ended deerfoot modeler (as they used to be called). A propetal has a wooden end & is meant to be sharpened & pushed into the leather. It is, in effect, a cutting tool. A deerfoot modeler, however, if sharpened, has no wooden end to protect the hand. All it would take is one slip & you will be going to the emergency room. A deerfoot modeler is NOT a slicing or cutting tool- it is one of a variety of modeling tools- used to model, not cut. Quote
Contributing Member ClayB Posted December 27, 2007 Contributing Member Report Posted December 27, 2007 That could be a concern, and is something that I didn't think about. I took the new tool out of the package marked Pro Modeling Tool, small/lg undercut. It is shaped almost exactly like a regular pro petal tool but is not real sharp. It has a pretty good grip on it, and if held like a pencil, the other tip is going to be above the back of your hand, not to say that there still isn't a chance for an accident. I is always a good idea to be safe so your warning is sure a good idea. I do have a couple regular spoon modelers that I have sharpened the ends on for certain uses, and your precautions would apply to them as well. I took a few pictures of the tool and will post them here. This one shows the large end compared to a Pro Petal tool Quote ClayB Badlands Leather Art blog Badlands Leather Art Website
Members rharris Posted December 27, 2007 Members Report Posted December 27, 2007 ClayB Thanks for the tutorial on the modeling tool. It was a good refresher course. The more I use the modeling spoon the better my tooling gets. I still need to use it more. Practice, practice. Thanks RussH Quote
Billy P Posted December 27, 2007 Author Report Posted December 27, 2007 Hey everybody, while talking to one of my old friends we got to talking about the modeling spoons and we both seem to remember that the Deerfoot modelers were used as a lifter kind of like the Pro Petals are used now. He said that back in the 70's and early 80's he doesn't remember the Pro Petals being available. He also said that to the best of his memory that the Pro Petals came about as a result of needing a better tool than the Deerfoot modelers to work the Oak Leaves and such. I really don't know as my memory sure ain't what it used to be, LOL, sometimes I cain't remember what I had for breakfast. Which reminds me I haven't had any yet. So catch ya'll later, and with kindest regards Billy P P.S. If anyone else remembers anything about the Deerfeet and the Pro Petals and how they came about fall in and let us know, again inquiring minds would like to know. BP Quote Billy P SideLine Leather Co. Leatherworker.net/Forum
Members Hawk Scarbrough Posted October 26, 2015 Members Report Posted October 26, 2015 ClayB Thanks for the tutorial on the modeling tool. It was a good refresher course. The more I use the modeling spoon the better my tooling gets. I still need to use it more. Practice, practice. Thanks RussH I purchased a set of clay modeling tools, modified some, and they work very well (especially on small art work) Quote
Members Kulafarmer Posted March 1, 2016 Members Report Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) I purchased a set of clay modeling tools, modified some, and they work very well (especially on small art work)Hawk and all, im working on a design for a Maile lei, This is a similar representation,,, At least a rep of what maile looks like sorta, am just going straight strands rather than lei around something, can just drape straightish want to put it on guitaur straps and books etc, Been trying to do real small, below attached pic is just a freehand doodle, started using bevelers and quickly discovered the smallest one is too big Where is the best place to get modeling tools for this or small small bevelers and backgrounders etc,,, Or do i need to strap on my jewlers magnifyer and bust out the files and dremmel? The carved doodle is about 2.5" long, usually the size of these leaves etc would triple to be life size or be somewhere in between, but wanted to try a small size for possible iphone case or eyeglass case. I guess basicly looking for source for fine detail tools other than tandy or BK, i dont think even BK has real small tools, but need to call him and see if he can custom a few maybe. Another question, most likely a stupid one, But Should i case the leather before modeling? Thanks All! Maybe i should have posted this on its own,,,, not trying to hijack, just started reading thread and this came to me Edited March 1, 2016 by Kulafarmer Quote
Members Hawk Scarbrough Posted March 5, 2016 Members Report Posted March 5, 2016 Hello all and Merry Christmas Everyone. I have never used the modeling spoons very much. Until a couple of years ago, when I found and joined the IILG, I didn't have much of an idea what they were even for. Now that I have an idea of their intended use, I find them whipping my ass. I just can't seem to get the way to use them correctly in my mind. If any and all that can would try to explain to me how to use them I would really appreciate it. Also if anyone has maybe pictures of how they are used and would post them as a before, during and after, it would probably help me and maybe some others also. Anyway like I said any help with this would be most greatly and humbly appreciated. Thanks in Advance, Billy P Can't help per se since I am great at using the wrong tool for the right job. However, I recently purchased (and modified) some clay modeling tools. I got the idea I could use them to "model" leather on the small, detailed graphics I like to do on small projects. Seems to work and I test various tools to accomplish various desires. Quote
Northmount Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 Should i case the leather before modeling? Yes, if you want the impressions to be deep enough and to stay. The right amount of moisture also helps to get the nice darkening or burnishing that you usually want. Tom Quote
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