Black powder double shot snake need help

[DoubleKCustomLeathercraft]

I just got an order for a double shot snake. I've made one before, for the same costumer but it's been a few years. Definitely not a very common item, even at all the black powder supply companies online. There's no need to make any changes to my pattern, but he suggested using something on the transfer from the shot bag to the spouts to help keep their shape. I was thinking something like a funnel but not a thick piece of plastic. Was looking for something thinner but crush resistant. I have no clue what to call these tapered tubes other than that, tapered tube. That's not working for me on Google and was curious if anyone has any recommendations where to start? I could go with plastic sheeting but i think that'll crush. 

Anywhere here's a picture. The area I'm taking about is between the 2 powder/shot spouts connection and the main body. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Edited 21 hours ago by DoubleKCustomLeathercraft
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[fredk]

A polythene measuring cup, with the bottom cut off. The polythene will be flexible enuf to deform but re-take its shape

[Mulesaw]

That is really a specialty item! Looking really good I must say. 

My best suggestion would be to use a cow horn. In Europe it was the standard thing for holding black powder, so it won't be damaged by the chemicals in the powder.

Cow horn can be shaped if you heat it up first. I am unsure about what temperature, but I think 325-350 degrees Fahrenheit seems to be the spot as far as I can see on the Net. You heat it up in some hot oil, and then you shape it.

I'd make a tapered piece of wood with a broom stick as a handle. The tapered piece should look like a small cartoon christmas tree, with the brrom stick out the wide end.
Cut a cow horn to a length a bit longer than the tapered piece. Heat up the horn, and press the tapered piece into the horn, and when it cools down it should retain its shape.

An alternative route is to take the wide part of a cow horn, cut a piece off, slit it open and heat it up. Then you flatten the piece. 
WIth the flat piece you mark out to form a tapered pipe. THen heat it again and shape it over a prefabricated piece of wood.

I have never tried working with horn this way, I just know the theory behind it. But I guess it might be a heckuvalot of work to make something like that when no one is ever going to see it.

A second option would be to form a small cone using some sheet metal brass. 
Brass is easy to solder and if you get something fairly thin, it is easy to shape as well.

 

Brgds Jonas

 

[chuck123wapati]

thicker veg tan, wet mold it to shape. for that 2 " piece you have sewn in. tool it too lol.

Edited 20 hours ago by chuck123wapati

[fredk]

1 hour ago, Mulesaw said:

My best suggestion would be to use a cow horn. 

Cow horn can be re-formed by boiling water, a constant rolling boil. 

But water boils at different temperatures according to how high you are above MSL

[dikman]

Bit of confusion there Jonas, he's talking about the lead shot not Black Powder. Brass would deform and crush if dropped/sat on whatever. Some sort of polyethylene funnel cut off and stitched inside? Or sheet polyethylene (milk bottle?) rolled into shape and stitched inside? Or as Chuck suggested, veg tan made to shape and stiffened (hot water?).

[chuck123wapati]

12 hours ago, dikman said:

Bit of confusion there Jonas, he's talking about the lead shot not Black Powder. Brass would deform and crush if dropped/sat on whatever. Some sort of polyethylene funnel cut off and stitched inside? Or sheet polyethylene (milk bottle?) rolled into shape and stitched inside? Or as Chuck suggested, veg tan made to shape and stiffened (hot water?).

dope it up with Resolene or acrylic sealer, lol it'll be plenty stiff. 

[Mulesaw]

@dikman Ah, yes, that is a mistake from my side 🙂

In my head it was for powder, not the lead shots. 

I have never seen one of those before, so I thought it was for simultaneously filling powder in a double barrel muzzle loaded shotgun. 
But is the idea that you carry 2 sizes of shots? Or is it for a double barrel shotgun ?

Brgds Jonas