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[Constabulary]

I don´t think it is possible except you drill a hole in the shaft and cut a thread. but IIRC it is almost impossible to remove the hand wheel from a 211. I have a 212 and was not able to remove it. A friend tried to pull off the hand wheel on his 211 with a gear puller and bent some parts around the thread lever.

However, maybe you can make a sleeve or spacer ring that goes over the "hub" on the hand wheel.

[kgg]

10 hours ago, eLeM said:

It does indeed have these parts (and more!) But I can't seem to figure out what tool I need to get the hand wheel screw off. 

According to the parts manual there are two screws (position and a set screw) holding the handwheel on. Parts manual reference ( https://southstarsupply.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Singer-211G165-G166-G265-G266.pdf ).

I would remove both and put a couple drops of diesel in each hole and let sit for a few hours before trying to remove the handwheel. You may have to use a wheel puller and a hammer to move the handwheel back and forth as it maybe seized onto the shaft once you remove those screws. Getting those screws will also be difficult to remove.

With all that work done and the new needle positioner install the question remains why do you want / need to install the needle positioner???

kgg 

 

Edited Saturday at 10:58 AM by kgg

[Constabulary]

6 hours ago, kgg said:

According to the parts manual there are two screws (position and a set screw) holding the handwheel on

true - as on most machines. Problem is IIRC that the shaft bearing (272142 I think) is inside the hand wheel or the casting and my buddy said the bearing is THAT tight on the shaft or inside the hand wheel / casting (glued or shrunk fit) that you cannot pull it of w/o damaging other parts. 

Maybe CowboyBob knows better 😉

Edited Saturday at 05:03 PM by Constabulary

[friquant]

On 9/30/2025 at 3:34 PM, friquant said:

remove the stock handwheel screw, and install the collar (with extra long screw) in its place.

I was wrong about this. I didn't realize that the 211G does not actually have a stock handwheel screw. I assume that piece with the triangle is actually the arm shaft.

[AlZilla]

1 hour ago, Constabulary said:

true - as on most machines. Problem is IIRC that the shaft bearing (272142 I think) is inside the hand wheel or the casting and my buddy said the bearing is THAT tight on the shaft or inside the hand wheel / casting (glued or shrunk fit) that you cannot pull it of w/o damaging other parts. 

Maybe CowboyBob knows better 😉

272142 looks like the hand wheel itself, to me. There would be no reason for a bearing between a hand wheel and the arm shaft, I don't think. The wheel turns the shaft. Maybe it's more complex. 

Definitely interested in how this one turns out.

[dikman]

The 211 class is different to most other machines as it has a bearing in the handwheel rather than fitted into the main body of the machine. When I had mine I wanted to replace the handwheel with a larger pulley but couldn't because of the bearing. Constabulary is right, you will need to make an adapter sleeve to fit over the shaft on the handwheel.

[AlZilla]

1 hour ago, dikman said:

The 211 class is different to most other machines as it has a bearing in the handwheel rather than fitted into the main body of the machine. When I had mine I wanted to replace the handwheel with a larger pulley but couldn't because of the bearing. Constabulary is right, you will need to make an adapter sleeve to fit over the shaft on the handwheel.

I guess I need to find some pictures.

[AlZilla]

No, 272142 says it's an arm shaft ball bearing. I still don't understand what is rotating on it, but it's clearly there.

But the Adjusters manual seems to think it's a piece of cake ...

 

 

[dikman]

I don't recall having any problem removing the pulley, but because the bearing comes with it the shaft is left floating in the air! It's obviously not considered a particularly brilliant idea because I'm not aware of any other machines that are made that way.