Members ChuckBurrows Posted March 5, 2009 Members Report Posted March 5, 2009 No more problem with vinegaroon than with the tannic acid in veg/bark tan when it's used properly and FWIW - I've been using it for 35+ years with no problems. Neutralize with baking or even better washing soda and water, which also helps darken the leather and helps remove the odor, and then rinse thoroughly with clear water. Let air dry until all odor is gone - the acetic acid in vinegar has a VOC rating and once the odor is gone so is the acid....... Quote Wild Rose Trading Company Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.
Members Bronson Posted March 7, 2009 Members Report Posted March 7, 2009 I'm too new at the holster thing to be able to add much to this forum but I want to add something productive instead of just asking questions all the time Many years ago I was watching a show where two guys would refinish furniture. On this particular show the wood refinisher dude was using a mixture of vinegar and rusty metal on oak. He roughed up the surface with a wire brush and applied a liberal amount of the vinegaroon. It produced a beautifully highlighted grain pattern. He said it worked very well on oak due to the high level of tannins in the wood. So if any of you are also into wood or furniture finishing there's another use for the vinegaroon you've got laying around Bronson Quote
Members Shorts Posted March 11, 2009 Members Report Posted March 11, 2009 As much as I've read and received advice on the forum here, then vinegarooning some items and used recommended procedures, I can't find the nerve to use it on my holsters. I'll keep it for some projects depending on their use. But for my peace of mind, I'll keep using black dye for my holsters. Quote
MADMAX22 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) Would like to add that while I havnt made any holsters really I do make the mutli tool pouches on occasion and use vine for that and it works just fine. Had a few people use them for a while and no ill reports of rusted multi tools. Just like to add also my recipe for the vinegraroon is using a big plastic coffe jug I put the gallon (little less) of the vingeger in there and added about 3 or so of the steel wool. No need to rust it up first or anything. After about 2 weeks or so it is usable for a nice finish. Now after a little longer it is just a black vineger with a few chunkies in the bottom. It works very well. I can either dip them or paint it on, works both ways. Edited March 13, 2009 by MADMAX22 Quote
Members Bronson Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 I just made a test swatch from my vinegaroon. It worked great and mine has only been sitting for about four days. I washed a steelwool pad with soap and water, squeezed it as dry as I could and put it in the vinegar. 4 days later it's a brown sludgy liquid and I dipped a q-tip in it and spread it on the leather which instantly turned a nice even, dark charcoal. I'm excited about this new (for me) techinque. On another note I've also done some test pieces with some PVA diluted with water and drop of dish soap (read about it someplace on Leatherworker.net) to use as a treatment for the inside of the holster. So far so good with that one too. Once the water dries it leaves a thin flexible coating that can be slicked down nicely. Bronson Quote
Members Bronson Posted March 17, 2009 Members Report Posted March 17, 2009 I sent an email to all my "crafty" friends about the vinegaroon figuring they might like to knwo about it. One of them, a metal/blade/armor/smith emailed me back with this: Hi Bronson, I use this recipe for a top patina on copper, the Japanese call it "ohaguro" and it can be made with vinegar, beer , or sake (cheap sake). They suggest heating iron scraps to a red heat and letting them air cool, then adding them to the liquid. The Japanese method say let the mix sit for six months to get a good reaction (topping the liquid off that evaporates). It produces a beautiful dark brown speckled surface when used. Also, it was popular for upper class women to color their teeth black with during the Edo period. That's cool, I'll have to try it on leather. It appears this stuff is pretty versatile Bronson Quote
Members Bronson Posted March 23, 2009 Members Report Posted March 23, 2009 I was bit by the woodworking bug this weekend and made some grip panels for my 1911. They are made from a 1/4" oak piece that I got from Lowes for about $3.00. After shaping them I dipped them in my vinegaroon and it really made a nice effect. The pics don't really do the color justice. In real life the dark areas a dark purple-ish grey. Anyway, just something else that you can do with the wonder-mixture Bronson http://www.flickr.com/photos/29310638@N07/3377674807/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/29310638@N07/3378492480/ Quote
Members woolfe Posted March 23, 2009 Author Members Report Posted March 23, 2009 I was bit by the woodworking bug this weekend and made some grip panels for my 1911. They are made from a 1/4" oak piece that I got from Lowes for about $3.00. After shaping them I dipped them in my vinegaroon and it really made a nice effect. The pics don't really do the color justice. In real life the dark areas a dark purple-ish grey.Anyway, just something else that you can do with the wonder-mixture Bronson http://www.flickr.com/photos/29310638@N07/3377674807/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/29310638@N07/3378492480/ WOW... Those are really nice. If I had a 1911, if I could afford to spend the money on a 1911 atm, I would be trying to make a set exactly like you did. Very nice work!!! Quote http://www.woolfegunleather.com/
Members Shorts Posted March 23, 2009 Members Report Posted March 23, 2009 Nice Bronson, bobtailed and everything. I eventually want to try my hand at grip panels. BTW, did the bobtail change the feel of the grip in hand? I'm considering that mod myself. Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted March 24, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Sweet Mother of Customization, those are SPECTACULAR! I just happen to have some red oak sitting around......dang it, I've got too many projects! But in the very near future, I can see my 1991A1 wearing a set. Cut, shaped, sanded, then dunked? Or dunked first? ....ooo....and I got a knife project too.... Edited March 24, 2009 by TwinOaks Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
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