Ambassador pete Posted April 2, 2009 Ambassador Report Posted April 2, 2009 I don't expect any responses here- I just have to see it written. After Obama's totally tasteless, thoughtless and meaningless gift ( Walmart I-pod) to the queen.... wouldn't it be neat if we or some other handcraft forum took up a collection and sent her something that showed the ability and workmanship of the american people. Wouldn't have to be expensive or ornate- but I know that if I was a world leader I would LOVE to have an album by Hidepounder, a relief of Clay's, a miniature saddle or a purse/picture by Tina. thanks for indulging me- I'm SO PISSED at this guy- he's a puppet that 's in WAY over his head. pete
Ambassador pete Posted April 2, 2009 Author Ambassador Report Posted April 2, 2009 I'm sorry if I offended anyone or placed an unsuitable post here but I am just SO #@)*&^)# MAD to see our country go to hell and for no reason. I spent a lot of time and money putting together a portfolio for my family, learned to manage it, and have watched it plummet since you know who took office. I am no expert when it comes to the economy but I know a LOT of people who are and they all agree that this bail out/rescue nonsense is just that- NONSENSE. Even the pulitzer award winner , the father of Modern Portfolio Theory says that this is all just a waste of time trying to make this into what may become a socialist experiment to change an entire nation. Again- sorry... but he's not MY president. clinging to my gun(s), family and bible. pete ps-JOHANNA_ please let this remain for a little while to allow those offended to accept or at least read my apology before you whack me. pete
Moderator Johanna Posted April 2, 2009 Moderator Report Posted April 2, 2009 I'm not gonna whack you, Pete. My husband just came home and let me know he got a 6.5% pay cut today. I think it's a neat idea to give the Queen something. How many people in the news have NO scandal associated with them? She's a gracious lady, and it would be a kind gesture to make a gift for her, with respect, from the USA. Johanna You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. - Mark Twain
Members dsenette Posted April 2, 2009 Members Report Posted April 2, 2009 i'm not an economist... but... NONE of the current economic issues began when Obama was elected....ALL of the S@#t we're in right now started quite a while ago....sometime in the mid to late 90's when the economy started getting crazy and continuing on until the "crash" the stock market has gone completely insane...the housing market has gone completely insane....default credit swap? seriously? who the hell thought that was a good idea? i think it's a little unfair to blame someone who's trying to do SOMETHING to fix something they're not 100% responsible for (yes....he's been a senator for a while...and no i don't know any specifics as to bills he may or may not have worked on that may or may not have contributed to our current state)... WE (i.e. AMERICANS) are responsible for this calamity that has come upon us....WE have made stupid decisions with our own money... Also...i postulate that if mccain had won (or anyone else who ran)....that your portfolio would be in the exact same state that it is now....this economic failure was coming no matter who's at the wheel...it's coincidence that YOUR portfolio started tanking during the current presidency...but i can assure you that's just because it takes a while for things that effect the large scale to filter down to the small scale "We are all blind men touching an elephant. Each with a different view. It's only when we compare our experiences that we can truly know the complete picture" ~ Buddhist proverb
Members skip Posted April 2, 2009 Members Report Posted April 2, 2009 I agree! it is better to put it down in black and white for everyone to see. it also allows you to blow off steam so you don't use your anger on anyone. I am clinging to my guns and Bible as well. don't be ashamed of your feelings as there are thousands of others who would and do agree with you! I know this isn't the forum for this kind of thing but sometimes you just have to blow your own horn.
Suze Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 Yeah tell me alll about it -- I work for the same company as Johanna's hubby 3.9% cut for me along with the "little things" that have ALWAYS been there to make life a little more "bearable" A paid Birthday day -- gone free drink at first break -- gone by the end of the year we will be going "paperless pay checks" bi-monthly, which means that we will prob have MORE taken out of them. and I think that with this cut we are at least 4 if not 5 years back in pay scale. {and I wou;n't count on that 25 year club thing this year either) Is your shop still open? I might need it to make ends meet Reality is for people who lack imagination Whether you think you can or think you can't - you are right. ~Henry Ford
Hilly Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 WE (i.e. AMERICANS) are responsible for this calamity that has come upon us....WE have made stupid decisions with our own money... We may have made stupid decisions with our money, but that MARXIST in the white house and all his dumbass croneys are making our stupid decisions look like a cake walk. The way our money is being mis-spent, by the time your great grandchildren are old enough to make a living, they will be paying upwards of 60% of their wages (if they're in the middle class tax bracket) in taxes to pay for the idots of today's government! If government spending continues at this pace, the interest alone on the money we borrow from China will be $830,000,000,000 a year. Is that change we can afford? I think not. The only change coming to America is the change from capitalism to socialism. Period.
rhall Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 This man is a Socialist, That is a Fact.He was never vetted by the media and they did not serve us well!Now my Grandchildren will never be able to pay off the Bills!
Members whinewine Posted April 2, 2009 Members Report Posted April 2, 2009 i'm not an economist... but... NONE of the current economic issues began when Obama was elected....ALL of the S@#t we're in right now started quite a while ago....sometime in the mid to late 90's when the economy started getting crazy and continuing on until the "crash" the stock market has gone completely insane...the housing market has gone completely insane....default credit swap? seriously? who the hell thought that was a good idea?i think it's a little unfair to blame someone who's trying to do SOMETHING to fix something they're not 100% responsible for (yes....he's been a senator for a while...and no i don't know any specifics as to bills he may or may not have worked on that may or may not have contributed to our current state)... WE (i.e. AMERICANS) are responsible for this calamity that has come upon us....WE have made stupid decisions with our own money... Also...i postulate that if mccain had won (or anyone else who ran)....that your portfolio would be in the exact same state that it is now....this economic failure was coming no matter who's at the wheel...it's coincidence that YOUR portfolio started tanking during the current presidency...but i can assure you that's just because it takes a while for things that effect the large scale to filter down to the small scale Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Finally some common sense put forth in a MATURE manner. (And y'know, my portfolio & investments are in the toilet also.) But to listen to the nuts on talk radio & then to parrott the buzzwords they utter without ever knowing what the words mean or even knowing if they are real words (WTF is a 'porkulous', for cryin' out loud?): this makes people into mindless, unthinking little trolls, puppets controlled by idealogues on both the left AND the right, just like the bookburners & the anarchists in nazi germany before WWII.
Ambassador pete Posted April 2, 2009 Author Ambassador Report Posted April 2, 2009 WE (i.e. AMERICANS) are responsible for this calamity that has come upon us....WE have made stupid decisions with our own money... I admit that there were those who took advantage of the system but the VAST majority of americans didn't think that they were cheating the system. They should have been REFUSED the loans by those offering them(BUT WERE TOLD TO DO SO BY BARNEY FRANK, CRIS DODD, ETC) Also...i postulate that if mccain had won (or anyone else who ran)....that your portfolio would be in the exact same state that it is now....this economic failure was coming no matter who's at the wheel...it's coincidence that YOUR portfolio started tanking during the current presidency...but i can assure you that's just because it takes a while for things that effect the large scale to filter down to the small scale I DON'T BELIEVE THAT FOR A SECOND. WOULD WE BE IN TROUBLE NOW? Yes, but the remedies that McCain would have proposed would have been methodical, slow to present, and more transparent. I've never met the man but I know in my heart that he loves this country and puts her first. It's his nature and needs no defending.
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