esantoro Posted May 8, 2009 Report Posted May 8, 2009 Anyone have a good source for horse hide? Thanks, Ed Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Members SOSHorses Posted May 8, 2009 Members Report Posted May 8, 2009 Anyone have a good source for horse hide?Thanks, Ed why would you want it? Quote SOSHorses SOS Leatherworks
Members ryano Posted May 8, 2009 Members Report Posted May 8, 2009 Because it is naturally waterproof and stronger than steer hides. Quote
Members whinewine Posted May 8, 2009 Members Report Posted May 8, 2009 Brettuns Village carries 'north of cordovan' horsehide; Siegels of CA sells horsebutts & I believe Kevin Hopkins of Springfield Leather (see ad banner at the top of this page) carries horsebutts, also. Call & ask. russ Quote
Members NoahL Posted May 8, 2009 Members Report Posted May 8, 2009 I love that stuff, man. The horsehide from Brettuns Village is pretty thin (around 2mm) and pre-dyed and finished, and it's been retanned with oil, so it doesn't really tool, but for as thin as it is it is pretty durable. I haven't had the stuff from Siegels or Springfield, but I just got some from Zack White that is nice--straight veg-tan and pretty heavy-duty stuff. It makes nice belts and cuffs, and I'm making a wallet out of it now Quote Website: Wasteland Leatherwork Collaboration Projects: The Wasteland Crow Project
esantoro Posted May 8, 2009 Author Report Posted May 8, 2009 I've heard that horse hide is very tough wearing, and I thought it would be nice to make a bag out of it. I would need about 22 sq. feet. I'll try Zack White. Veg tanned horse hide in around 5/6 oz sounds perfect. ed Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Members NoahL Posted May 8, 2009 Members Report Posted May 8, 2009 I've heard that horse hide is very tough wearing, and I thought it would be nice to make a bag out of it. I would need about 22 sq. feet. I'll try Zack White. Veg tanned horse hide in around 5/6 oz sounds perfect.ed I think Zack White only carries 7-8 oz, but you might be able to get them to split it or find thinner stuff for you. I'd love to see what you would do with that! Quote Website: Wasteland Leatherwork Collaboration Projects: The Wasteland Crow Project
HorsehairBraider Posted May 8, 2009 Report Posted May 8, 2009 Zack White has split tooling leather for me before and done a *fabulous* job. As I recall it only cost something like 50 cents a foot... well worth it. They told me it is easier to take something really heavy first for skiving. Sounds like a cool project! Quote They say princes learn no art truly, but the art of horsemanship. The reason is, the brave beast is no flatterer. He will throw a prince as soon as his groom. - Ben Jonson http://www.beautiful-horses.com
Contributing Member rdb Posted May 8, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted May 8, 2009 I use Zack's horse butt for holsters. I can get 2 out of most of them. Ed, They are small width wise, maybe 12" on the big ones, 8" to 10" on most, and maybe 36-40" long, tapered at both ends. If you want to make bags, it won't do. Quote Web page Facebook
Members NoahL Posted May 8, 2009 Members Report Posted May 8, 2009 Ed has skills, though. I'm sure he could make a bag in a style like this with it--multiple pieces sewn together. It may not be sturdy enough for his purposes, I suppose, but that doesn't mean it's impossible, does it? I truly don't know if it would be possible or not, since I'm a newbie, but I did think about trying to make a bag out of it, and that was my thought for it... Quote Website: Wasteland Leatherwork Collaboration Projects: The Wasteland Crow Project
Members SOSHorses Posted May 28, 2009 Members Report Posted May 28, 2009 Well, I never really thought of it but I guess horse hide would be good. I just don't think I could stand to use it myself. Don't get me wrong I have stuff made with horse hair but it is hair that I have cut from my horses, and they didn't have to die for me to get it. I just don't think I could wear little rusty. Quote SOSHorses SOS Leatherworks
Contributing Member barra Posted May 28, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted May 28, 2009 As per official specifications, the A2 flying jackets made famous by American Aircrew in WW2 were "mostly" made of horsehide. http://www.lostworldsinc.com/A-2FlightJacket.htm Barra Quote "If You're not behind the Troops, please feel free to stand in front of them"
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted June 4, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted June 4, 2009 Good idea Noah, using multiple pieces and all. I'm just wondering if that style bag is suitable for pumps and heels.... Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members 5shot Posted June 10, 2009 Members Report Posted June 10, 2009 It would be cheaper to just order direct from Horween - that is the Tannery where all the suppliers are getting it from. And as for the horse having to die for the hide...well so does a cow...and the raw hide comes from Europe (mostly Belgium IIRC) where horse is cattle and served on a plate. Quote
Members Kate Posted June 11, 2009 Members Report Posted June 11, 2009 It would be cheaper to just order direct from Horween - that is the Tannery where all the suppliers are getting it from.And as for the horse having to die for the hide...well so does a cow...and the raw hide comes from Europe (mostly Belgium IIRC) where horse is cattle and served on a plate. I've used the horse butts from Siegel of California for way over a decade - great stuff.... I always did wonder where the rest of the hide went, though! I would LOVE to get sides or backs of veg tan horeshide. Most of the butts you get are not long enough for reins or longer strap goods, and it is superb for those uses. It also molds and tools very well, hence it's popularity for holster making. Much finer grained and holds up to long wear better than the average cowhide ever did. Somtimes you get a funky hide pattern from spotted critters, makes life interesting if you don't plan to dye the finished piece. Quote KATE'S CUSTOM GUNLEATHER and KATE'S CUSTOM BRIDLEWORKS Sultan, WA USA
Members NoahL Posted June 11, 2009 Members Report Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) It would be cheaper to just order direct from Horween - that is the Tannery where all the suppliers are getting it from... I contacted Horween months ago, actually, and yes, it is cheaper...if you are willing/able to buy it in 100lb increments. They will even sell you nice big pieces, but you have to buy it 100lbs at a time, and at roughly $7.25 per pound, I can't afford to do that--nor could I store it if I could afford to purchase it. EDIT: I should note, however, that if you buy in bulk from Horween (which is what places like Zack White and Siegels would do), the price goes down, so now that I think about it, the cost of buying one horsehide strip from, say, Zack White (approx. $6.50 per pound), costs a little less than buying directly from Horween unless you are buying a huge amount of the stuff. My head hurts from math-thoughts, please stop me... Anyway, it's definitely nice stuff, and I know exactly what Kate means about the funky patterns from the spotted ones--my latest horsehide belt has some interesting "blotchiness" to it, but that just adds character Edited June 11, 2009 by NoahL Quote Website: Wasteland Leatherwork Collaboration Projects: The Wasteland Crow Project
Members pinkchaps Posted June 16, 2009 Members Report Posted June 16, 2009 does anyone know where to get horse hair on hide??? thanks! Quote
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