what kind of bar tacker machine can do this?

[chouinardragon]

Hi guys,

I just took the pictures of my backpack. There're two leathers bar tacked on both side of the zipper.

The bar tack stitch is 1.6 cm long by 0.2 cm width. Please see the attached pictures.

I'm wondering if the Singer 269W can do it or not? Or others can do it?

Thanks!

Chouinardragon

[CowboyBob]

Hi guys,

I just took the pictures of my backpack. There're two leathers bar tacked on both side of the zipper.

The bar tack stitch is 1.6 cm long by 0.2 cm width. Please see the attached pictures.

I'm wondering if the Singer 269W can do it or not? Or others can do it?

Thanks!

Chouinardragon

Hello,

Yes a 269w8 will work for this it goes from 1.6mm - 4.0mm width & 3.2-16.9 in length

[chouinardragon]

Hello,

Yes a 269w8 will work for this it goes from 1.6mm - 4.0mm width & 3.2-16.9 in length

Hi

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate that.

By the way,is 269W8 a 42-stitch tacker? Based on that picture,what thread size is it used?

Thanks!

Chouinardragon

[chouinardragon]

Hello,

Yes a 269w8 will work for this it goes from 1.6mm - 4.0mm width & 3.2-16.9 in length

Hi Sewmun,

I just found that you sell new and used sewing machines. That's great!

Actually,I'm also looking for a Singer 68 class box cross pattern tacker which can stitch a 3.5cm by 2.0cm.

The box cross pattern please see the attached picture.

I found some 68 class but all of them don't fit my needs,they are all formed in different shape or size.

It is said that 68 class can be converted to fit my needs,but needs certain cam. And it needs an experienced mechanic and costs a lot. Is it correct?

Thanks

Chouinardragon

[pitchdev]

Hi, First post here and I'm dragging up an old thread -- I'm new to the sewing world (at least the DIY sewing world) and I'm thinking I need an automatic bar tacker that ideally sews the box x pattern like this one does.

I'm sewing leather (1.2mm) onto poly webbing for some custom motorcycle tie down straps I'm making up.

I'll need to go through 2 layers of that leather, webbing, and velcro.

I'd ideally like to get a machine that can sew straight seams and also do the pattern stitches -- is this possible?

I was looking at a Consew 206 RB5, but I'll be bar tacking for more than half my work...so please advise if I need to prepare myself to buy two machines or there is one good one to do it all!

I really appreciate all the info in this forum --- this stuff isn't very accessible for the newbies!

[Wizcrafts]

Definitely, you'll need two machines, minimum. All of the bar tackers sew within their metal frames. You will need a separate machine to sew long lines, curves, edges, etc.

The X tacker will be exactly what you need for that operation. Because it lays down regular straight stitches, rather than a tight zig-zag, it can probably be used with heavier thread than #69 (10 or 11 pound test). Ask the dealer about the thread and needle handling capacity before buying a machine. If it will tension #92 thread, run through a #19 or 20 needle. it will provide a better tack on straps that might be heavily stressed by the wind and elements.

[gottaknow]

If you're going to be making a living off your products, and investment into a new programmable bartack machine would be a good investment. If you're just doing a few as a side hobby, You can make decent box x's with a regular lockstitch. Both Brother and Juki make really decent bartacks that can do multiple tasks. Be prepared to spend a lot of money. I have both machines and prefer the Brother. Keep in mind as you change tacks, you may need additional clamps and plates to accommodate whatever tack you want. For example, one type of clamp will do most regular straight bartacks. To do a box x, you'll need different clamps and base plate. Regards, Eric

[pitchdev]

I searched and found another post where you recommend a Singer 269 to another member -- would this be a good model for my needs?

http://www.usa-deale...INE_p_1779.html

Then I get a different specific cam and other parts to make the box x pattern size I want?

Also thread size -- I believe I'll need some pretty big thread as I want to get some very strong connections on my webbing...maybe 207 thread?

I should add that I'm working on prototyping now -- no immediate plans for production -- but I will be load testing my straps, so the strength needs to be representative of what I could expect for production manufacturing.

And yes, I'm doing this for a living now! But I'm just getting going and don't have a trust fund!

Edited November 17, 2013 by pitchdev

[gottaknow]

A 269 is a good general use tacker. I would not however use it for a box x. Main reason being you can't change the speed. When tacking leather or heavy webbing, a straight line tacker without a speed control like a 269 or one of the older Juki 900 series are fine. For a box x on leather, you'll appreciate the adjustable speed as you adjust to different materials and threads. I should add that neither a Singer, Brother, or Juki tacker will tension 207 thread. If you want thread that heavy, you'll need to use a regular lockstitch machine. There's no difference in strength, just speed. I've seen plenty of folks that can sew a box x manually and you can't tell the difference. Regards, Eric

Edited November 17, 2013 by gottaknow

[pitchdev]

What model of multi tasking Brother would you recommend and what is the max thread size? What kind of price range for a used one?

Do you know of any machine that will make a box x with 207 thread?

What old straight bar tack machine would sew with the heaviest thread?

Thanks for all the info -- starting to look like the regular lock stitch machine and some time/patience/skill might be the best solution for now.

until I can afford this one - ha!