Basket Weave Arrow

[TimKleffner]

Greetings All

Lay out your pattern. [photo 1]

Cut the outside of the tooling pattern, then I put in a beader blade, cut that inside border.

Find the center of your tooling piece and mark the center [outside of the tooling piece]

Place ruler /straight edge on center line and weight it down.

Basket stamp of your choice, lightly tap first impression [to get angle of arrow, you'll just have to play with the 1st angle after that, it usually self aligns ] [photo #2]

Lightly stamp tool impressions using the straight edge for guide. [GO WITH DIRECTION OF ARROW]

Take away ruler/ straight edge and strike impressions. [GO WITH DIRECTION OF ARROW] [photo #3]

Turn piece around , start with light impression to check angle. Start stamping [GO WITH DIRECTION OF ARROW] [photo #4 & #5]

Fill in the outside [GO WITH DIRECTION OF ARROW] [photo #7 & #8]

Bevel both sides of beader ; Set border tool of choice [photo #9]

P.S.... I'm left handed and set the arrow up for tooling back ward for all you right handers out there!

Edited November 10, 2009 by TimKleffner

[Hilly]

Thanks for the tutorial, Tim! I will have to try this out when my new Barry King basket stamps get here! I'll let you know how it goes.

[Deno]

Very nice Tim, thanks for sharing. My Best, Dennis.

[steveh]

Hi Tim, How do you determine the proper angle that you have in photo #2?

Thanks Steve

[TimKleffner]

Hi Tim, How do you determine the proper angle that you have in photo #2?

Thanks Steve

Steve,

If you look at the bottom of photo 2, I gently tapped the tool till it aligned itself. It'll take a couple times to get the feel for that angle

[particle]

Tim - thank you for taking the time to produce this tutorial! Regarding Steve's question - if possible, do you have a way to check the actual angle of the pattern? To me, it looks like almost exactly 30/60 degrees (I held an adjustable triangle up to my screen over one of your enlarged images...).

[dustin29]

Thanks for the tutorial Tim. I am casing a practice peice of leather so that I can try it out tommorrow night after work. Thank you for your time and effort to teach greenhorns like me.

[TimKleffner]

Dustin

Just keep up the good work... we all started somewhere.

Happy tooling

Tim

[Hawgman]

Hey Tim, I have set right in your shop and you showed me these steps in person and I still can't get the angle right.

Oh well I guess I have to keep on practicing. I remember you said do it 10 times then look back and see the progress.

Looks like I am going to do it more than ten times to get it right. Some of us (me ) are more dense than others.

But everything else looks better than when I first started with you. I will call you some time next week and set up some

time for training.

You keep on teaching and I will keep on learning.

Oh by the way I ordered one of Chan Geers books this week.

[electrathon]

Tim - thank you for taking the time to produce this tutorial! Regarding Steve's question - if possible, do you have a way to check the actual angle of the pattern? To me, it looks like almost exactly 30/60 degrees (I held an adjustable triangle up to my screen over one of your enlarged images...).

You can not use his angle unless you have the exact same tool. Almost every basket tool is a little differant in size and shape, so every differnat tool will have a unique angle.

[pete]

It's kind of hard to explain but I'll try.

To get the right angle the first time,take the example shown (vertical/center line down the middle) and place your b.w. stamp horizontal to the right of it so that it is laying across the bottom and the left top and bottom legs are touching the vertical line.

Gently tip the stamp to the right so that the bottom right leg is STILL touching the base line and the bottom left leg is touching the vertical line . It's a subtle move but if done correctly the rest of the stamps going up the vertical line will just touch the center.

no measuring

pete

I "think" that Bruce Johnson did a tutorial awhile back on how to run a stamp along a border with the proper angle. Same idea but you are using a center line instead of a border

Edited November 18, 2009 by pete

[TimKleffner]

HI Mark

When you get back , we'll run that arrow once more. You'll slap your forehead and say " I knew that!"

Call when you can

Practice practice .. PRACTICE

Tim

[scottishshoemaker]

Thanks for this Tutorial, I gave a try after many attempts, a tad squint but with practise,lol.

[King's X]

Thanks TimK.....awesome and simple tutorial. Please do not think I am trying to 'steal' your thread, but add to it.

But I agree, it takes some time to get it right. Dave S in Fort Worth taught me a simple or idiot proof way to get the angle right. It has worked for me up to date. The biggest concern is that not all stamp are the same, totally agree. So this is what I have done to my tools and how I keep it simple. The way I was taught.

Note: I know people will shake their heads and disagree with me; and that is okay, really! But I remember a teacher who told me many years ago to K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid) when it comes to learning something. Why make it difficult if there is a simplier way to learn it and do it. Oh, by the way, I am not saying anyone on this thread or forum is stupid. I carry that title myself with honor.

For every basket tool that I own, I took the wife's red nail polish and placed a dot on one side of my basket tool. Usually, the right side up. I draw a faint line (as light as possible) where I am going to start. I use my basket tool and cut it in half trying to place have of the tool on the right and left side of the line. When I determine the center (BTW, it can be done when you mark it with nail polish, hint, hint), I make a light mark using the tip (end) of the basket on each side of the center line.

This should give you the marker where you will place the inner leg of the basket tool and the center line will be the other marker for the opposite leg. Do the same thing on the opposite side.

Now, when you get to the top (or the bottom) depending which way to like to tool (I know people will disagree with me here as well). Do the same thing before you start the next row. using the line of leg left by the path of the last row and opposite of that center line. When you complete that line, do the same when you come back or go forward, either way.

A quick note on tool. Keep notice on the marker you placed on the tool. Try to keep it going in the same direction every time. Especially, with Barry King baskets, which some have definate directions.

Good luck

[Steve Brewer]

Tim,here is how I do a arrow basket.

I make the whole project with arrows.

Steve

[Cowboy316]

by george Timooooo i think i got the arrow weave figured out wooooo hooooo heres a pic for ya LOL

Cowboy316

Edited February 19, 2010 by Cowboy316

[leatherjunkie]

Thanks TimK.....awesome and simple tutorial. Please do not think I am trying to 'steal' your thread, but add to it.

But I agree, it takes some time to get it right. Dave S in Fort Worth taught me a simple or idiot proof way to get the angle right. It has worked for me up to date. The biggest concern is that not all stamp are the same, totally agree. So this is what I have done to my tools and how I keep it simple. The way I was taught.

Note: I know people will shake their heads and disagree with me; and that is okay, really! But I remember a teacher who told me many years ago to K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid) when it comes to learning something. Why make it difficult if there is a simplier way to learn it and do it. Oh, by the way, I am not saying anyone on this thread or forum is stupid. I carry that title myself with honor.

For every basket tool that I own, I took the wife's red nail polish and placed a dot on one side of my basket tool. Usually, the right side up. I draw a faint line (as light as possible) where I am going to start. I use my basket tool and cut it in half trying to place have of the tool on the right and left side of the line. When I determine the center (BTW, it can be done when you mark it with nail polish, hint, hint), I make a light mark using the tip (end) of the basket on each side of the center line.

This should give you the marker where you will place the inner leg of the basket tool and the center line will be the other marker for the opposite leg. Do the same thing on the opposite side.

Now, when you get to the top (or the bottom) depending which way to like to tool (I know people will disagree with me here as well). Do the same thing before you start the next row. using the line of leg left by the path of the last row and opposite of that center line. When you complete that line, do the same when you come back or go forward, either way.

A quick note on tool. Keep notice on the marker you placed on the tool. Try to keep it going in the same direction every time. Especially, with Barry King baskets, which some have definate directions.

Good luck

I find the angle for basket weaving similar to what you do. i dont draw a light line. take the basket weave stamp and make a light impresion on the leather with it. dont hit the stamp just place it on wet leather and apply enough hand pressure to it to make a impression.

look at the basket weave stamp with it sitting left to right longways. name each leg starting on the top left leg A, right leg B bottom left leg C bottom right leg D

the impression you made line up the basketweave leg A to impression leg C, Basketweave Leg B to impression leg B.

basicaly you are taking the basketweave stamp and splitting it in 1/2 by going to oposite corners on the impression.

this is how i was taught how to find the stamping angle of the stamp.

also on the arrow stampping try not to draw the line as it leaves a line visible when you are finished. always use a ruler or straight edge for your line. this way you are not looking at the finished project and seeing a line.

here is my arrow designed for my harley gas tank

[TimKleffner]

Hi All

It's all looking great. glad I could help. It's all great.

Happy tooling

Tim

[resqman]

I saw Steve's post and used it as launching point for a book cover. I ran my arrows vertically instead of diagionally.

[Dee]

I'm just getting started in leatherwork, learning what I like and don't like, and I fell in love with basket weaves. When I saw the first arrow pattern I knew I'd found my first challenge. Tim...your tutorial was a tremendous help and answered alot of my questions. Pete...it was your description of how to get that beginning angle that made the lightbulb go off! My first few samples on some scrap were pretty good, if I say so myself! Just a bit more practice to get really consistent and I'll be ready to tool it on something 'real'. Thanks, Guys!!!

Dee

[LNLeather]

Great tutorial! Thanks for putting this together!

Seems like this should be pinned too

[Spartan]

I have been trying to figure this out; I saw a belt done with the arrowhead pattern on it a couple of weeks ago... Glad I found this, was running out of hair lol Thanks to everyone who passed on their knowledge

[colescarvings]

love this tutorial, finally i understand how to do the arrow.

thank you

[chanmanyoung]

Thanks for the help! This is my first try with the arrow... I couldn't get the angle right, I think it's partially since I'm trying it on a belt and I tried it horizontally. Then I read this and turned it vertically and it worked much better! It is easier to align and get the right angle.

Here's some pics... Any tips?

[Pip]

Tim,here is how I do a arrow basket.

I make the whole project with arrows.

Steve

that is so cool, thanks guys a great tutorial and a real inspiration having just got some barry king stamps mmmmm. resisted for some time because of price and shipping but once I got them people happy to pay more for products. Really looking forward to having a go at these. Fab!!