Basket Weave Arrow

[pete]

It's kind of hard to explain but I'll try.

To get the right angle the first time,take the example shown (vertical/center line down the middle) and place your b.w. stamp horizontal to the right of it so that it is laying across the bottom and the left top and bottom legs are touching the vertical line.

Gently tip the stamp to the right so that the bottom right leg is STILL touching the base line and the bottom left leg is touching the vertical line . It's a subtle move but if done correctly the rest of the stamps going up the vertical line will just touch the center.

no measuring

pete

I "think" that Bruce Johnson did a tutorial awhile back on how to run a stamp along a border with the proper angle. Same idea but you are using a center line instead of a border

Edited November 18, 2009 by pete

[TimKleffner]

HI Mark

When you get back , we'll run that arrow once more. You'll slap your forehead and say " I knew that!"

Call when you can

Practice practice .. PRACTICE

Tim

[scottishshoemaker]

Thanks for this Tutorial, I gave a try after many attempts, a tad squint but with practise,lol.

[King's X]

Thanks TimK.....awesome and simple tutorial. Please do not think I am trying to 'steal' your thread, but add to it.

But I agree, it takes some time to get it right. Dave S in Fort Worth taught me a simple or idiot proof way to get the angle right. It has worked for me up to date. The biggest concern is that not all stamp are the same, totally agree. So this is what I have done to my tools and how I keep it simple. The way I was taught.

Note: I know people will shake their heads and disagree with me; and that is okay, really! But I remember a teacher who told me many years ago to K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid) when it comes to learning something. Why make it difficult if there is a simplier way to learn it and do it. Oh, by the way, I am not saying anyone on this thread or forum is stupid. I carry that title myself with honor.

For every basket tool that I own, I took the wife's red nail polish and placed a dot on one side of my basket tool. Usually, the right side up. I draw a faint line (as light as possible) where I am going to start. I use my basket tool and cut it in half trying to place have of the tool on the right and left side of the line. When I determine the center (BTW, it can be done when you mark it with nail polish, hint, hint), I make a light mark using the tip (end) of the basket on each side of the center line.

This should give you the marker where you will place the inner leg of the basket tool and the center line will be the other marker for the opposite leg. Do the same thing on the opposite side.

Now, when you get to the top (or the bottom) depending which way to like to tool (I know people will disagree with me here as well). Do the same thing before you start the next row. using the line of leg left by the path of the last row and opposite of that center line. When you complete that line, do the same when you come back or go forward, either way.

A quick note on tool. Keep notice on the marker you placed on the tool. Try to keep it going in the same direction every time. Especially, with Barry King baskets, which some have definate directions.

Good luck

[Steve Brewer]

Tim,here is how I do a arrow basket.

I make the whole project with arrows.

Steve

[Cowboy316]

by george Timooooo i think i got the arrow weave figured out wooooo hooooo heres a pic for ya LOL

Cowboy316

Edited February 19, 2010 by Cowboy316

[leatherjunkie]

Thanks TimK.....awesome and simple tutorial. Please do not think I am trying to 'steal' your thread, but add to it.

But I agree, it takes some time to get it right. Dave S in Fort Worth taught me a simple or idiot proof way to get the angle right. It has worked for me up to date. The biggest concern is that not all stamp are the same, totally agree. So this is what I have done to my tools and how I keep it simple. The way I was taught.

Note: I know people will shake their heads and disagree with me; and that is okay, really! But I remember a teacher who told me many years ago to K.I.S.S (keep it simple stupid) when it comes to learning something. Why make it difficult if there is a simplier way to learn it and do it. Oh, by the way, I am not saying anyone on this thread or forum is stupid. I carry that title myself with honor.

For every basket tool that I own, I took the wife's red nail polish and placed a dot on one side of my basket tool. Usually, the right side up. I draw a faint line (as light as possible) where I am going to start. I use my basket tool and cut it in half trying to place have of the tool on the right and left side of the line. When I determine the center (BTW, it can be done when you mark it with nail polish, hint, hint), I make a light mark using the tip (end) of the basket on each side of the center line.

This should give you the marker where you will place the inner leg of the basket tool and the center line will be the other marker for the opposite leg. Do the same thing on the opposite side.

Now, when you get to the top (or the bottom) depending which way to like to tool (I know people will disagree with me here as well). Do the same thing before you start the next row. using the line of leg left by the path of the last row and opposite of that center line. When you complete that line, do the same when you come back or go forward, either way.

A quick note on tool. Keep notice on the marker you placed on the tool. Try to keep it going in the same direction every time. Especially, with Barry King baskets, which some have definate directions.

Good luck

I find the angle for basket weaving similar to what you do. i dont draw a light line. take the basket weave stamp and make a light impresion on the leather with it. dont hit the stamp just place it on wet leather and apply enough hand pressure to it to make a impression.

look at the basket weave stamp with it sitting left to right longways. name each leg starting on the top left leg A, right leg B bottom left leg C bottom right leg D

the impression you made line up the basketweave leg A to impression leg C, Basketweave Leg B to impression leg B.

basicaly you are taking the basketweave stamp and splitting it in 1/2 by going to oposite corners on the impression.

this is how i was taught how to find the stamping angle of the stamp.

also on the arrow stampping try not to draw the line as it leaves a line visible when you are finished. always use a ruler or straight edge for your line. this way you are not looking at the finished project and seeing a line.

here is my arrow designed for my harley gas tank

[TimKleffner]

Hi All

It's all looking great. glad I could help. It's all great.

Happy tooling

Tim

[resqman]

I saw Steve's post and used it as launching point for a book cover. I ran my arrows vertically instead of diagionally.

[Dee]

I'm just getting started in leatherwork, learning what I like and don't like, and I fell in love with basket weaves. When I saw the first arrow pattern I knew I'd found my first challenge. Tim...your tutorial was a tremendous help and answered alot of my questions. Pete...it was your description of how to get that beginning angle that made the lightbulb go off! My first few samples on some scrap were pretty good, if I say so myself! Just a bit more practice to get really consistent and I'll be ready to tool it on something 'real'. Thanks, Guys!!!

Dee