Nicky Report post Posted November 13, 2010 Hi I know nothing about this so bear with me! I am hopeless with a brush as my hands shake and have spent the last day researching paint pens and which would be the best for decoration. I found these in the US - they aren't on the Uk site http://www.sharpie.com/enCA/Products/Pages/PaintMarkers.aspx I know acrylics are OK, but what about oils and sealing them? If oil is baaaad do you have any suggestions about paint markers? I plan to use the main colour (for collars) using a dye. Can I dye the whole thing then apply the decoration straight over the dye, or would I have to use a smaller brush and dye around the design? Thanks very much.. Nicky x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tina Report post Posted November 13, 2010 Hi I know nothing about this so bear with me! I am hopeless with a brush as my hands shake and have spent the last day researching paint pens and which would be the best for decoration. I found these in the US - they aren't on the Uk site http://www.sharpie.c...intMarkers.aspx I know acrylics are OK, but what about oils and sealing them? If oil is baaaad do you have any suggestions about paint markers? I plan to use the main colour (for collars) using a dye. Can I dye the whole thing then apply the decoration straight over the dye, or would I have to use a smaller brush and dye around the design? Thanks very much.. Nicky x Now, I don't know about them Sharpeis but... I have painted leather with artist oil pait with great resaults. I did how ever let it dry for 4-6 weeks before sealing it with super sheene, I did save the piece just to have it around and to be checked every now and then and it is still perfect after at least 2 years now. I hope this help you allong the way some:-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferret Report post Posted November 13, 2010 The sharpie permanent markers are ok for leather, you should be able to get them at most stationers. I found a pack of 4 fine/ultra fine in a pound shop a while ago. If you cant find the colour/shade you need you can use fiebings dyes and apply them with a fountain pen or caligraphy set . You can also use the pen for applying thinned down acrylics. You can't put the sharpies/dyes on top of each other as it just results in a yucky coloured mess, but you can put acrylics on dried dyes (never the other way around). All the usual selants/finishes will work ok once the dyes/acrylics have dried. hope this helps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicky Report post Posted November 13, 2010 Thanks very much! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cem Report post Posted November 14, 2010 I don't really like brushes either due to them feeling unbalanced in my hand (longtime use of using markers for illustration work) and I found a way recently that I'm happy with for doing detail work I get empty Copic Sketch Markers and fill them with leather dye I use Angelus but any other alcohol based dye should work. The sketch markers have a brush type tip, are refillable and the tips are replaceable as well once it has worn down. You can use the normal coloured Copics on leather as well they are alcohol based but they are less colour fast than leather dye which is why I get the empty ones and fill them myself. If you are interested get a coloured one first to see if you like the tip most decent art supply places should carry them. The cheapest place to get the empty ones is online from America, Copic do some other markers as well but I don't think they are refillable and the sketch is the only one that has the brush type tip. The sketch markers are also dual tipped and the other end is good for doing edges. Hope this is of some help Cheers, Clair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicky Report post Posted November 14, 2010 Thanks again I'll have a look at that! I think I'm just gonna buy one of each and see what I like best... Sharpie Oil Marker Sharpie General Marker The Copic coloured marker An artist friend of mine told me about Sakura Permapaque too.. http://www.sakuraofamerica.com/marker-paint-markers He uses them on paper and says they are brilliant but has no experience of leather. I noticed they can be used on vellum so they maybe worth a shot too. I think I may try one of these as well. Has anyone had any experience of Sakura? So many choices AAARGH!! My head is going to explode lol... Thanks for your help everyone - much appreciated Nicky xx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alb Report post Posted November 14, 2010 This is great info! I'm wondering if you have used the Copic marker/airbrush system? I have an airbrush but I don't use it because it's a hassle to clean.... Ann I don't really like brushes either due to them feeling unbalanced in my hand (longtime use of using markers for illustration work) and I found a way recently that I'm happy with for doing detail work I get empty Copic Sketch Markers and fill them with leather dye I use Angelus but any other alcohol based dye should work. The sketch markers have a brush type tip, are refillable and the tips are replaceable as well once it has worn down. You can use the normal coloured Copics on leather as well they are alcohol based but they are less colour fast than leather dye which is why I get the empty ones and fill them myself. If you are interested get a coloured one first to see if you like the tip most decent art supply places should carry them. The cheapest place to get the empty ones is online from America, Copic do some other markers as well but I don't think they are refillable and the sketch is the only one that has the brush type tip. The sketch markers are also dual tipped and the other end is good for doing edges. Hope this is of some help Cheers, Clair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferg Report post Posted November 14, 2010 This is great info! I'm wondering if you have used the Copic marker/airbrush system? I have an airbrush but I don't use it because it's a hassle to clean.... Ann I have shakey hands also. I find the expensive artists brushes in several sizes works for me. I dip into the spirit dye and blot on a folded paper towel if I am doing fine work. ferg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JesseJean Report post Posted November 14, 2010 I've used a regular Sharpie to outline my design and then I brushed acrylic paints. After the paint was dry I went back over it with the Sharpie and it worked fine. After it was completely dry I airbrushed Resolene to seal. I wouldn't recommend Sharpie's Paint Marker though ~ I just didn't have any luck with it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKRay Report post Posted November 14, 2010 I wouldn't recommend Sharpie's Paint Marker though ~ I just didn't have any luck with it... I use Sharpies for intricate work and have no problems; however, like JesseJean I'm not a fan of the Paint Markers. Ray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicky Report post Posted November 14, 2010 Cheers for that...May I ask why you don't like them? Sorry for being a pest - I just don't want to spend cash unnecessarily! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cem Report post Posted November 15, 2010 This is great info! I'm wondering if you have used the Copic marker/airbrush system? I have an airbrush but I don't use it because it's a hassle to clean.... Ann Hi Ann, No I haven't used the Copic airbrush system looks interesting though especially the ease of changing colours just by putting in a new marker. I don't do alot of spray work but when I do I use an Aztec A7778 airbrush and thats fairly easy to clean with the cleaning station add on. I think there might be adapters for it to use with other makes of airbrushes which might be an option. Cheers, Clair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
royslsbry Report post Posted November 17, 2010 I use markers all the time on my painted belts and spur straps for the lettering and have no problem the markers I use are acrylic based. Then I coat them with acrylic resolene. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites