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Has anyone here heard of 'black wax'? Its supposidly used to wax your sewing thread for hand stitching? A mixture of bees wax and pine tar that sticks better and is more wear restant than using plain bees wax.

I've looked a number of places and havnt been able to find it at all.

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Has anyone here heard of 'black wax'? Its supposidly used to wax your sewing thread for hand stitching? A mixture of bees wax and pine tar that sticks better and is more wear restant than using plain bees wax.

I've looked a number of places and havnt been able to find it at all.

good luck finding real pine tar.

Search this website for 'rosin' and you will see plenty of discussion about hand wax.

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Yeah and good luck actually finding pine resin. I looked for months and finally just gave up. Please let us know if you find a good source for it.

CW

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I can get all the 100% pure pine resin I need just by harvesting it off the lightning struck pines on our property. Usually in the form of hardned globs laying on the ground or still stuck to the tree. The globs on the ground have to be slowly melted and strained to get all the bugs, twigs, etc... out. I use this as 'brewers pitch' for coating the inside of leather drinking jacks. Not for hot liquids. The globs still on the tree are pretty much uncontaminated and result in a relitivly good, clean resin once melted and poured into molds.

I reckon I'll just experiment with a combo of pine resin and bees wax and see if I can reach a happy medium somewhere.

Thanks for the input.

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Pine gum would be brutal to work with around leather, I get it on my climbing ropes and gear on pine removals and it's a mess.

Even if it's just on the thread, by the time you're done I'm sure it would be everywhere.

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Thats what the bees wax is for I think, from what I can gather. The stuff I'm talking about is not liquid or even semi-solid. Its been on the groud or stuck to the tree long enough to harden into a solid.

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Gum will become liquid again once it gets beyond the temperature it became a solid at.

If you heated it up then allowed it to cool it might work.

If you could heat it then add the wax and allowed it to cool it might be what you're looking for.:dunno:

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To make hand wax, I use a similar method as found in the link below ....

http://wherearetheelves.blogspot.com/2007/06/making-code.html

Yeah and good luck actually finding pine resin. I looked for months and finally just gave up. Please let us know if you find a good source for it.

CW

http://www.usrodeosupply.com/Shop-Rodeo-Gear/Rosin

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Thanks for the link, I had thought about bull riders rosin, but wasnt sure if it was the same stuff and where I could get it in bulk.

CW

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You can get small rosin blocks at music stores, Its what violin users use to 'rosin up the bow'. The clearer the rosin the purer and more expensive.

My main problem seems to be the ratio of rosin to bees wax.

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