buffalobill plus Ed D Report post Posted March 7, 2011 This is the second video ...Bob Kovar doing some sewing with the Cowboy CB4500 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oreana123 Report post Posted March 7, 2011 This is the second video ...Bob Kovar doing some sewing with the Cowboy CB4500 Ok I want one............... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayban Report post Posted March 8, 2011 So Ed, did you go home with one?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAYAK45 Report post Posted March 8, 2011 So Ed, did you go home with one?? I don't know about ED, but my 4500 came about a week ago. The video does not even touch how nice this machine is. That probably applies to all the 400, 450 4000 4500 etc.etc. Oh yea 441! But the service and info here on the right side of the rockies makes this a Great Buy. Fact is, I spent hundreds of hours researching and sewing on other machines to "save money". AND how many dollars for other needle systems, bobbins, feet?...you get the idea. How much money was all THAT time worth at a $$$??? per hour. The 4500 came ready to go with a needle and thread started. Put together by myself in about two hours. Plugged and started stitching. It does MORE than the video shows. I will never need another machine for my business, and in ten years (hopefully more) will sell for most of the price. Call Bob or Ryan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayban Report post Posted March 8, 2011 Kayak, I feel the same way about my CB 3500...no size envy here......I'm thrilled with it and we're getting along famously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handwerker Report post Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Hi I in search of a leather sewing machine, am I the cowboy would like 4500 very well. Is it possible to buy this machine in Germany? Thanke you Arno Edited March 18, 2011 by Handwerker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted March 18, 2011 Hello Arno, I will try to find the dealer contact info for a Cowboy Machine in Europe for you. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted March 21, 2011 Hello Arno! The Dealer In Germany is Sieck International Sieck GmbH & Co. Industriemaschinen KG Otto-Hahn-Straße 12 95447 Bayreuth (Germany) Phone: +49 921 7647 40 Fax: +49 921 7647 420 www.sieck.de The machine cowboy 4500 have the brand Sieck 411. with Sieck International The brand FEIFENG is also a cowboy machine and you can find it in the UK and some other places. Trox Hi I in search of a leather sewing machine, am I the cowboy would like 4500 very well. Is it possible to buy this machine in Germany? Thanke you Arno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handwerker Report post Posted March 22, 2011 Thanke you, this Company is ca. 200 Km from my Home :) Arno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted March 26, 2011 Hello Arno Say hello to Andreas from me, Tor in Oslo Norwegen. He is a great guy to deal with. If you go there to try the clones, please tell me what you think of the Adler 205 clone compared to the Juki 441 clone. The Adler 205 clone has the highest price there, that is maybe so because it is a copy of a German well known product. Or maybe it is like Sieck sayes; a better and stronger machine than the Juki 441 copy (clone) How thick/thin will they sew, max/min needle and tread size.......Which machine needs the most adjustment by thread switching and so on... I am very interested in the outcome of that test, And it will make a good topic here in the forum. 200 km is what; one hour on the autobahn? Gute fart! Thanks Trox Thanke you, this Company is ca. 200 Km from my Home :) Arno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoelR Report post Posted March 26, 2011 +1 to the 3500/4500 crowd. Received my 3500 last Monday and had it setup and stitching that evening (after coming home from my real job). Only issue I had with it was trying to unload a 310 lb pallet from the back of my pickup by myself. For those who have not worked with these before (I was one of them) the stand alone is 140 lb so even breaking the pallet apart leaves you with some large heavy items to deal with. Highly recommend the flat table attachment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
economical sewing solution Report post Posted April 17, 2011 Hello Arno, Cowboy has European warehouse in Germany, you can get contact information from www.cowboysew.com. John Hi I in search of a leather sewing machine, am I the cowboy would like 4500 very well. Is it possible to buy this machine in Germany? Thanke you Arno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philippe Report post Posted May 24, 2011 Just ordered my Cowboy cb4500 with complete package upgrades and extra "stuff" from Ryan Neel he is working on it now and says it will be here by the end of next week. Can't wait to make beautiful bags straps and case goods that will rival Dunhill, (at least in my mind and my 5 y. o.'s mind) lol. Looking forward to it very much I just wish there were more pictures and videos available of these machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayban Report post Posted May 24, 2011 Just ordered my Cowboy cb4500 with complete package upgrades and extra "stuff" from Ryan Neel he is working on it now and says it will be here by the end of next week. Can't wait to make beautiful bags straps and case goods that will rival Dunhill, (at least in my mind and my 5 y. o.'s mind) lol. Looking forward to it very much I just wish there were more pictures and videos available of these machines. Congrats on your new machine...you'll love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADMAX22 Report post Posted May 24, 2011 I concur with Rayban. These things are beasties, If you have not already got it in the setup I would get the left and right outer feet. These will be imperative to stitching around formed items. Neels great to work with and your machine should show up ready to go. I got mine all hooked up and ready to go within an hour plus and I dont really know squat about sewing machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philippe Report post Posted May 25, 2011 From everything I read and what Ryan told me I won't really need to get anything other than thread and needles, (which he included 2lbs. of and ten needles) in the future, it comes with all sorts of feet and attachments including a flat table, the only thing I can't seem to find is a detailed explanation of needles and thread sizes that would explain generally what each size is used for. It would be nice if someone would explain all the sizes of thread and needles, it would sure be a nice reference chart to compare experimentation with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayban Report post Posted May 25, 2011 All I can tell you about that is for the work I do, holsters, knife sheaths, belts etc.....the only thing I use is 277 thread top and btm, with #25 needles....per Bob Kovar's and Wiz' suggestions....I'm happy with the results so I'm sticking to em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Techsew Ron Report post Posted May 25, 2011 From everything I read and what Ryan told me I won't really need to get anything other than thread and needles, (which he included 2lbs. of and ten needles) in the future, it comes with all sorts of feet and attachments including a flat table, the only thing I can't seem to find is a detailed explanation of needles and thread sizes that would explain generally what each size is used for. It would be nice if someone would explain all the sizes of thread and needles, it would sure be a nice reference chart to compare experimentation with. I recommend you print out our needle and thread compatibility chart: http://raphaelsewing.com/blog/?p=11 Also take a look at this detailed article about nylon thread: http://www.thethreadexchange.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TTE&Category_Code=nylon-thread-information Enjoy your new machine! Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philippe Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks for the advice and that page about thread history is exactly what I was looking for thanks again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philippe Report post Posted June 4, 2011 holland freight says it will be here Monday can't wait to set it up and get started Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayban Report post Posted June 4, 2011 holland freight says it will be here Monday can't wait to set it up and get started Cool!! Pictures or we won't believe ya:NEWFUNNYPOST: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philippe Report post Posted June 5, 2011 The wife found out how much I spent on the cb4500 she aint to happy but at least when my machine gets here I get to sleep downstairs with it for a while lol Cool!! Pictures or we won't believe ya:NEWFUNNYPOST: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KAYAK45 Report post Posted June 5, 2011 The wife found out how much I spent on the cb4500 she aint to happy but at least when my machine gets here I get to sleep downstairs with it for a while lol Trust me it's worth it, at least for awhile. CB 4500/me in basement! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted June 6, 2011 Trust me it's worth it, at least for awhile. CB 4500/me in basement! Kayak45: Tell me you didn't just make CB4500 into a verb! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philippe Report post Posted June 7, 2011 Got my cowboy yesterday and set it all up!! Can't post pictures yet (camera problems) but wow what a machine, And Ryan Neel really knows his stuff, I always have a certain respect for people that can walk me through such complicated machines from memory alone. Thought I had a tension problem turns out my threading sequence was incorrect. And so quiet the digital servo motor is really something. I am just impressed by the size and solid feel of this machine, I'll post some pics when I can and after I complete my first project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
