Members Fauxred Posted July 20, 2011 Members Report Posted July 20, 2011 I'm looking to do some classic footwear styles and while I know I can do a brogue effect using two sizes of steel punch, it takes me forever to do them! A friend of mine has a steel brogue punch with three prongs that create the brogue pattern. I'm hoping someone has a set that they don't use and would be willing to sell. Similarly, I'm looking for a half-circle punch as well. I need punches!! Thanks everyone, Rae fauxred at gmail.com
Members scottishshoemaker Posted July 21, 2011 Members Report Posted July 21, 2011 I'm looking to do some classic footwear styles and while I know I can do a brogue effect using two sizes of steel punch, it takes me forever to do them! A friend of mine has a steel brogue punch with three prongs that create the brogue pattern. I'm hoping someone has a set that they don't use and would be willing to sell. Similarly, I'm looking for a half-circle punch as well. I need punches!! Thanks everyone, Rae fauxred at gmail.com Hi do you have picture of what your after. I have various shapes of pinking irons if they are any good. Oh where are you based? You Want It, I'll Make It!
King's X Posted July 21, 2011 Report Posted July 21, 2011 I forwarded your request to a friend who maybe able to help you. I asked them to email you if they can help out. Good luck Greetings from Central Texas! The Grain Side Up blog #TheGrainSideUp
Members Fauxred Posted July 22, 2011 Author Members Report Posted July 22, 2011 Hi there, Thank you so much for responding. I do have photos! The brogue punch my friend has is here: 5959376077_7d4b3a2c88_z.jpg And then half circle punch is here: 5959935628_607993ab7f_z.jpg Oh, and I'm in San Francisco. I really appreciate any help or leads you can give me. Rae Hi do you have picture of what your after. I have various shapes of pinking irons if they are any good. Oh where are you based? Thank you very much. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the help. I look forward to speaking with him or her soon! R. I forwarded your request to a friend who maybe able to help you. I asked them to email you if they can help out. Good luck
Members Edvin Posted September 12, 2011 Members Report Posted September 12, 2011 I have also looked for a brogue-pattern punch! Any directions where I could get one would be greatly appreciated. I did not know it existed and have tried to get a good pattern by free hand, it´s really tricky. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Audhumbla.se Archaeological reconstructions & industrial design Audhumbla on Facebook
Members Edvin Posted September 12, 2011 Members Report Posted September 12, 2011 I found a company called Götz, a German shoe equipment and supplies company, that makes brogue pattern punches. It´s on page 182 in the catalouge, picture 13. I think the name of the tool is "Patent Zierloch Ausschläger 79701000" but I can´t figure out how the tool is constructed. I have sent an inquiry for the price, it might be interesting for more than me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Audhumbla.se Archaeological reconstructions & industrial design Audhumbla on Facebook
Members Edvin Posted September 13, 2011 Members Report Posted September 13, 2011 I just got the price confirmed from Götz if any one is interested: 79701000 PATENT ORNAMENT HOLE PUNCH 2360:- ($352) 79701013 ORNAMENT PUNCH INSET N.13 590:- ($88) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Audhumbla.se Archaeological reconstructions & industrial design Audhumbla on Facebook
Members nneka22 Posted April 2, 2012 Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 Hi, did you ever buy and use the punch from Götz? I just got the price confirmed from Götz if any one is interested: 79701000 PATENT ORNAMENT HOLE PUNCH 2360:- ($352) 79701013 ORNAMENT PUNCH INSET N.13 590:- ($88)
Members Edvin Posted April 2, 2012 Members Report Posted April 2, 2012 Hi, did you ever buy and use the punch from Götz? Hi! No, I did not. 350$ was a bit much for a prototype but I would consider it if I would ever do a brogue-decor again. It was really time consuming making it with punches. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Audhumbla.se Archaeological reconstructions & industrial design Audhumbla on Facebook
Members nneka22 Posted April 3, 2012 Members Report Posted April 3, 2012 I understand, definitely. How do you do the tiny holes in the brogue pattern? The smallest punch I have is 5/64 - is there one smaller than that? Hi! No, I did not. 350$ was a bit much for a prototype but I would consider it if I would ever do a brogue-decor again. It was really time consuming making it with punches.
Members Edvin Posted April 3, 2012 Members Report Posted April 3, 2012 I just used a awl for the smallest holes. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Audhumbla.se Archaeological reconstructions & industrial design Audhumbla on Facebook
Members nneka22 Posted April 3, 2012 Members Report Posted April 3, 2012 I actually found a few tiny punches. Thanks for your reply earlier. I understand, definitely. How do you do the tiny holes in the brogue pattern? The smallest punch I have is 5/64 - is there one smaller than that?
Members MuddyClearWaters Posted December 15, 2013 Members Report Posted December 15, 2013 I'm also in need of a Brogue punch. I to lots of this type of work. Custom Leather Bicycle Saddles and Accessories www.carsonleh.com Singer 110W124 Singer 52W19
Matt T Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 I know this is an old post; but if anyone is interested, I do have punches like this for sale here. Leathercraft supplies
AndyL1 Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 I know this is an old post; but if anyone is interested, I do have punches like this for sale here. That's pretty cool! Would you happen to know where to get a punch to create the flower pattern common on toe caps? Blackthorn Leather on Etsy • Blackthorn Leather on Facebook
Matt T Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 That's pretty cool! Would you happen to know where to get a punch to create the flower pattern common on toe caps? Do you have a picture of what the pattern looks like? Leathercraft supplies
AndyL1 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) Do you have a picture of what the pattern looks like? I was thinking along the lines of this or similar (attached). I suppose one could be made fairly easy, just a plate of steel with the proper cutting tubes pressed through or welded in the right pattern. Check out step two on this page: http://www.habbotstudios.com/_blog/HABBOT_BLOG/post/How_a_brogue_gets_that_way_/ Edited March 3, 2015 by AndyL1 Blackthorn Leather on Etsy • Blackthorn Leather on Facebook
Matt T Posted March 4, 2015 Report Posted March 4, 2015 Wow, that is quite a punch. I'd have to think about how that could be made in a cost effective manner. Would be helpful to have a closeup picture of that punch. Leathercraft supplies
Matt T Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 Alright, good news. I think the medallion punch is a nice idea, and I was able to get a reasonable price on the punch tips by buying thousands of them. I need to make one first to confirm the labor cost, but ballpark figures for the price of a medallion punch is $50 + 1.45 per hole. I will have 1, 2, and 3mm hole tips. Leathercraft supplies
AndyL1 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Alright, good news. I think the medallion punch is a nice idea, and I was able to get a reasonable price on the punch tips by buying thousands of them. I need to make one first to confirm the labor cost, but ballpark figures for the price of a medallion punch is $50 + 1.45 per hole. I will have 1, 2, and 3mm hole tips. Ah this would be amazing! I'm anxiously awaiting to see what you come up with. EDIT: I just did a quick count on how many holes that would be. At $1.45 per hole this will get very spendy. Gulp. Still, it would be a great tool! Edited March 11, 2015 by AndyL1 Blackthorn Leather on Etsy • Blackthorn Leather on Facebook
Matt T Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Yeah, that design has a lot of holes. Is it just a concept you have, or have you done it by hand before? I am also wondering if you'd be able to penetrate that many holes at once just by hitting with a mallet. Leathercraft supplies
AndyL1 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Yeah, that design has a lot of holes. Is it just a concept you have, or have you done it by hand before? I am also wondering if you'd be able to penetrate that many holes at once just by hitting with a mallet. Just an idea I've had. I don't make shoes so I thought this kind of detail would be great on a bag or wallet. I'd use my press to push the die through. I wouldn't make this up on my account as I couldn't afford it at the moment, but if you're in business to sell a lot of them I would definitely keep an eye out for one. Edited March 13, 2015 by AndyL1 Blackthorn Leather on Etsy • Blackthorn Leather on Facebook
Matt T Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Good news, I finally received the tips from the factory. Check it out: http://lekoza.com/Tools/MedallionPunches I still need to experiment with making the punches, but I've made the tips available for anyone who would like to make their own. Since the price starts to add up on patterns with a lot of holes, I had the tips designed in a way that they can be replaced / reused if you create a face plate on your punch. Leathercraft supplies
AndyL1 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Good news, I finally received the tips from the factory. Check it out: http://lekoza.com/Tools/MedallionPunches I still need to experiment with making the punches, but I've made the tips available for anyone who would like to make their own. Since the price starts to add up on patterns with a lot of holes, I had the tips designed in a way that they can be replaced / reused if you create a face plate on your punch. Now this has some potential to be a very cool thing! I'm going to have to sketch out some ideas.... Blackthorn Leather on Etsy • Blackthorn Leather on Facebook
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