S.e.w. Line 106-Rpl Any One Know About These

[cowcamp]

I came across this machine on eBay its a walking foot new in box and I think will handle

The three layers of chap weight I need a machine for.

Been using a consequence 220 but want a true leather machine

And this seems a good starter.

I have a 99k and Landis 1 to handle lighter and heavy weight work

Does any one know about these any info on them as far as room the job thread size

And so on would be fantastic

Thanks much.

Wil

[cowcamp]

I came across this machine on eBay its a walking foot new in box and I think will handle

The three layers of chap weight I need a machine for.

Been using a consew 220 but want a true leather machine

And this seems a good starter.

I have a 99k and Landis 1 to handle lighter and heavy weight work

Does any one know about these any info on them as far as doing the job thread size

And so on would be fantastic

Thanks much.

Wil

[Wizcrafts]

Buyer beware. This looks like a drop-shipped Chinese portable walking foot machine. Pray that the box doesn't get dropped literally. A shock along the front or back can hopelessly jam these machines. Unless it is an improved model, many of the moving parts can be bent by hand pressure alone. As the seller about the quality of the metal parts and the casing. Make sure there is a 100% money back guarantee if it doesn't work, out of the box.

If the machine arrives in one piece and actually sews, here is what you can expect from it. These machines sew up to 1/4 inch thickness without any modifications to the feet. With modifications on a grinder and buffer, they can manage up to 3/8 inch. They use the standard 135x16 and 135x17 industrial needle system. The tensioning components only allow you to sew with #138 thread. However, some people have been able to replace the tensioner springs to sew with #207 on top. The bobbins are standard industrial bobbins, thus, you can't sew too far with #138 thread, on one bobbin load.

The portable walking foot machines are best suited to sewing marine or home vinyl, canvas, or light weight leather, like chap leather. The walking feet both have teeth on the bottom. These teeth secure the work between stitches (inside foot) and pull the work during stitches (outside foot). The needle and inside foot are static. The feed is accomplished by the outside foot and the feed dog.

While useful for apartment dwellers and flea marketeers, portable walking foot machines are neither built, nor meant to sew hard leather. The pounding caused by the increased pressure required to hold down dense leather, as the stitches are formed, will wear these machines out in a short time and may void their warranties.

[amuckart]

Save your money and buy a Consew 206 or a Seiko STH-8BL. If you've got space for a Landis 1, surely you can fit a proper industrial machine in?

[Techsew Ron]

Many ebay sellers who aren't sewing machine dealers will offer a machine new in box meaning it won't be tested, adjusted, oiled and prepared for sewing. You'll most likely have to do this work yourself or pay a mechanic to do it for you. Most of the time, new drop shipped machines won't be working right out of the box.

Just something to keep in mind!

Ron

[Art]

Hi Wil,

No, No No No, if you want used, get a Singer 153-101 or 103 or if you want a flatbed, a Singer 111w. They are the same machine but I have seen people pay more for a 111 than a 153, don't know why, the 111 is a flatbed and the 153 is a cylinder which is a better machine for assembly work. If you can pick up a 206 or an 8BL, as Al says, they are excellent machines also.

Art

I came across this machine on eBay its a walking foot new in box and I think will handle

The three layers of chap weight I need a machine for.

Been using a consequence 220 but want a true leather machine

And this seems a good starter.

I have a 99k and Landis 1 to handle lighter and heavy weight work

Does any one know about these any info on them as far as room the job thread size

And so on would be fantastic

Thanks much.

Wil

[cowcamp]

Well after a week of internet sights auction sites........ and just some really bad sites....

I found a place named USA Dealer. They have a huge amount of older and new machines at what seems reasonable prices

I would love to get a consew 206rb5 at the moment that aint gonna happen and that wont change cause the kids gotta eat

while i build this shop up. as i have the motor and table from the consew 220 Ive been looking at heads only and i have found a

Singer

cylinder bed, lockstich, walking foot

153w102---250.00

153w103---250.00

153k104--- 350.00

108w20---- 450.00

post bed

168g 101 -- 250.00

found a few consews juki ferdcos and adlers but i have no shot at them right now.

Would love to hear what yall think as far as wich one or a machine like these that i havent seen

want a cylinder bed for the many jobs but a post bed would work.

rodeo chaps, brush chaps, some purses and a few belts is all this machine gotta do look forward to hearin from yall

and wiz man if you got a line on a consew 206 for 350 400 max im all in boss

thanks for yalls help

[Art]

The 153w103 is a good machine if not ragged out, but that goes for any of them, a 153W101 might be better, but I don't see it listed. The 153K104 I don't know about, ask Bob. The 108w20 is also a good machine, I've only seen them set up with a binder on them. The post machine is a needle feed machine and might be OK for your needs, it takes a little getting used to and I have seen folks build tables to go around the post for flat work. All of these machines are candidates (except the 153w102). They love 69 thread and most will tolerate 138, but maybe with 92 or 69 in the bobbin. Not sure about the 108, again maybe Bob knows. The nice thing about a post (especially a single needle) is you can sew just about anywhere with them. If you could have seen me putting a pair of numbers on a letter jacket halfway down the arm (I didn't have a patcher) with a 491 you would have thought I was an Orangutan in a shooting gallery.

Let Bob Kovar give us a little more on the subject.

Art

Well after a week of internet sights auction sites........ and just some really bad sites....

I found a place named USA Dealer. They have a huge amount of older and new machines at what seems reasonable prices

I would love to get a consew 206rb5 at the moment that aint gonna happen and that wont change cause the kids gotta eat

while i build this shop up. as i have the motor and table from the consew 220 Ive been looking at heads only and i have found a

Singer

cylinder bed, lockstich, walking foot

153w102---250.00

153w103---250.00

153k104--- 350.00

108w20---- 450.00

post bed

168g 101 -- 250.00

found a few consews juki ferdcos and adlers but i have no shot at them right now.

Would love to hear what yall think as far as wich one or a machine like these that i havent seen

want a cylinder bed for the many jobs but a post bed would work.

rodeo chaps, brush chaps, some purses and a few belts is all this machine gotta do look forward to hearin from yall

and wiz man if you got a line on a consew 206 for 350 400 max im all in boss

thanks for yalls help

[cowcamp]

I appreciate all the input guys very much

This will be last time I ask unless yall blow me out lol due to my brain think these

Machines are right and yall inform me there not

Have found both of these tried them looked em up they are leather specific built

And am seeing what thoughts are as both are more then I'm suppose to spend

Not an amount for divorce. But definatley a butt chewing a couple night sleeping in shop

Singer 47w66 cylinder bed 500.00 head only but complete and really good condition

Singer 17-41 17-30 older cylinder bed and extermly difficult to get parts according to

Seller but works perfect looks brand like you wouldn't believe .

750.00 for either one . This one might be a week in shop

Please lemme know what ya think. Just need direction on final answer

[Wizcrafts]

Singer 47w66 cylinder bed 500.00 head only but complete and really good condition

Singer 17-41 17-30 older cylinder bed and extermly difficult to get parts according to

Seller but works perfect looks brand like you wouldn't believe .

750.00 for either one . This one might be a week in shop

Please lemme know what ya think. Just need direction on final answer

Cowcamp;

Do you realize that you are now willing to spend the kind of money that will probably get you a really good used machine from one of our dealers; one already setup to sew leather and guaranteed to work? Have you called any of our dealers yet? I know Bob Kovar personally and have been to his building, in Toledo, Ohio. It is over-run with sewing machines, of all types of feed and configuration. His toll free business number is 866-362-7397.