Computer Drawing Software For Making Leather Patterns

[JLSleather]

Must be a EU thing, eh? Repeatedly replying to topics you don't have an answer for? Seriously folks, WHAT IS the point?  If you don't know how to do what is asked, there's no crime in just NOT REPLYING in that thread.

Wasn't me that said it... but WAY back when .. Dick said he just scans a gun.  Which makes a lovely story.  And since it's so simple, you HAVE TO wonder why NOBODY actually does it.  Or they do it, but it's some "secret" HOW they do it.

I don't think somebody can make a digital representation (actual scale) of a pistol in "a few minutes".  Nope - don't believe it.  If you could, there would be copies of that, for every gun made, all over the internet.  

This is PROPORTIONED correctly, but not the right SCALE.  Go ahead, draw this up in "a few minutes".  OR better yet, tell me IF YOU KNOW how to scan an item that isn't flat, has protrusions that cause it to rock.  Unless you've built something to stabilize it at 90° to the bed of the scanner - which would be required for an accurate size AND / OR shape.  Do you HAVE parallax in the EU? Course, that seems to defeat the purpose.

 

I actually DO have some of the guns in the computer as digital files.  Scanning certainly would be FASTER... but, I suspect that is a myth.

 

[JLSleather]

On 8/18/2011 at 9:48 AM, dickf said:

I scan the gun/blue gun then use Photoshop to create the pattern.

just over 8 years ago

[LatigoAmigo]

9 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

tell me IF YOU KNOW how to scan an item that isn't flat, has protrusions that cause it to rock.  

Like I mentioned earlier, throw a black cloth over the object being scanned. Hold it in place through the cloth so the body of the gun is level with the scanner glass. Then scan it. If the image is a little off, scan it again. This is not rocket science, but a little trial and error is required. People do this all the time, and I think that is why people are surprised at your question, because you seem like such a very capable person, albeit "old school." 

Programs like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator allow the user to convert that scanned image into a line drawing in minutes. The big headache for many will be the cost and learning curve of the software, which is steep.

I hope I 'splained it good enough.

[mikesc]

I have an answer..it is that the solution already exists, but you want it handed to you on a plate..it isn't an EU thing..But it does seem to be a "you thing" always wanting exactly the answer to your question.. instead of looking for it yourself...And telling people what they can and cannot post..last time I looked the J in JLS was for Jeff, not Johanna.

Like LatigoAmigo said, most of us can do this easy, you can't apparently..your problem, not ours..take the time to learn how to do it..Just like we did..before you tube existed...Our answer is the answer is already out there and has been for years..You want spoon feeding an already made video..and you are impolite to anyone who doesn't give you exactly that in their answer..

You forgot how to search ?..or do you just enjoy complaining and insulting ..?

In the EU , and even in the USA.."blu tack"..or plasticine ( to keep objects stable on a horizontal surface and deal with the parallax )..and scanners that have lids big enough to lift up by 5 to 10 cms..I have 3 within arms reach right now..I also have a working brain and some imagination..to solve problems for myself..without complaining that someone else didn't solve them for me..I thought you did too..

"Nope - don't believe it. If you could, there would be copies of that, for every gun made, all over the internet. "
Not everyone's lives revolve around guns..for most of us ( in the USA, EU and elsewhere ) they are a tool amongst others , not a way of life, nor are we afraid to go outside in our societies or countries without one, even less do we need them in our own homes, nor are they a compensation for "something else" lacking in our lives / belt area.

If you don't feel safe in your society without a gun, you, or your society / country, or both have a big problem.

Question of "self confidence" or ...

I shoot, have served, ( years ago ) been shot at ( they missed, or they were a crap shot, I'm not )..lot of people who talk a lot about guns and gun stuff, have not been "there"..I don't feel unsafe where I live if I go out without a gun,I don't keep one "to hand" in my own home..I wonder.. when those who feel unsafe outside, or in their home, without a gun ,visit other countries where they are not allowed to have one, does the feeling of not being safe go with them..or does it stay home..

Btw..I've lived and worked in the USA (and many other countries) ..Miami, and then West Palm Beach, Orlando, New York, Boston, San Francisco and Los Angeles..didn't have a gun ( but fired some on ranges whilst there ) didn't feel unsafe walking outside without one at all..day or night..

Edited September 22, 2019 by mikesc

[JLSleather]

56 minutes ago, mikesc said:

last time I looked the J in JLS was for Jeff, not Johanna.

I don't know WHERE you got the idea that "J" is for Jeff.  It isn't, and I have never said that it is.  But it does rather support my point about some folks' tendency to speak without knowledge.  Like you said, not my site, so also not my responsibility.

But this is going nowhere.  As I suspected, though I had [erroneously] held hope that I was wrong.  I'll just figure that either it isn't as "clear cut" as some claim, or it's some closely guarded secret that people aren't allowed to openly portray.  Or, we all share it behind the scenes, but we just don't want to tell JEFF.  Whatever. Meh

 

1 hour ago, LatigoAmigo said:

Hold it in place through the cloth so the body of the gun is level with the scanner glass. Then scan it. If the image is a little off, scan it again. This is not rocket science, but a little trial and error is required.

Oh, I get it.  I thought we were talking about actual scale, actual size (micrometer not required, but close IS).

[LatigoAmigo]

29 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

I thought we were talking about actual scale, actual size

We are talking about actual size, but when working with scanned images, things might get confusing. Images can be scanned in various resolutions, and when viewed the image can be hard to measure. Knowledge of the operating software can help manage that issue, with the end product being the exact size of the original scanned object. 

Edited September 22, 2019 by LatigoAmigo

[mikesc]

"I don't know WHERE you got the idea that "J" is for Jeff. It isn't, and I have never said that it is. But it does rather support my point about some folks' tendency to speak without knowledge. Like you said, not my site, so also not my responsibility. "
When people who know you have called you Jeff, as they do here, frequently, you haven't said that they were wrong..and, as you tell people that they are wrong ( whether they are or they are not ) pretty easily...

I didn't say it was "your responsibility",I did say that for someone who is not this site's owner ( Johanna is ) that you have a habit ( twice at least in the last 10 days this time ) of telling other people what they should and should not say in their posts..and when they should post..on a site which you do not own, and which you are not a moderator..No-one else picks you up on it , apparently because you give away holster patterns..that they could design and make themselves..many do make and design their own..

"It" is very clear cut and easy..but as you thought that being insulting and complaining about other people's posts not giving you the exact answer was going to get it explained to you or a video "how to" on a plate.."ain't gonna happen"..'least not from me*..you are a bright guy apparently..do your own homework..

*I'm one of those guys who buys from and gives help to "vets", and I discount heavily when I sell to them, or give / work for free for them ( whoever they served for, or are serving for, in whichever branch, including police and fire etc and ancien(ne) resistant(e)s ) you have said on numerous occasions that you consider if they have served to be irrelevant, that you want cheap..in this case you want a free video , or free instructions..on something that you do not know how to do, ( but which is pretty common knowledge to any designer ) and you want it "just so"..to your instructions..

We are different ;) ..but I do know that what goes around, comes around.. :)

Edited September 22, 2019 by mikesc

[JLSleather]

49 minutes ago, mikesc said:

When people who know you have called you Jeff, as they do here, frequently, you haven't said that they were wrong.

My name is Jeff.  That has nothing to do with the J in "JLS".  Are you .. advancing in years?

 

 

[Jack Napalm]

On 9/20/2019 at 1:54 PM, LatigoAmigo said:

You might try layin' the gun on the scanner glass, then place a black cloth over the glass to block out light. Press scan, and you should have what you're lookin' for.

This works.  One of my first IT projects was an archiving project using scanners and we scanned real objects with a flatbed scanner.    I just tried it again with crappy scanner and small pistol I have it.  Just to be sure I was remembering correctly.  Not sure I would do this on purpose in 2019 but you can do it.  There are better ways today to get a pistol image that is scaled/sized correctly. 

[mikesc]

"Are you .. advancing in years?"

We all are..from the moment we are born. :)

Hopefully we all will continue advancing in years ( or seconds, minutes, days, weeks, months ) , decades, even ( with sufficient medical progress for the youngest amongst us ) centuries.

It is when we stop "advancing in years" ( and especially in seconds ) that we are dead. :)

"advancing" is "progression", "a forward motion", it is not a fixed point, nor is it an end point.

Edited September 22, 2019 by mikesc