hiloboy Report post Posted June 15, 2008 will i found this machine close to where i live.. no shipping good side of it.. does anyone know any thing about a 241-12 and can it be used for sewing belts ,wallet, and hand tooled stuff like we do.. he told me all i would have to do is get a leather needle for it..but i don't know he may say anything to sale it.. all ideas welcome i got to get back to him soon...Mahalos Curt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$$hobby Report post Posted June 15, 2008 IIRC, the 241 was one of my many machines that i purchsed over the years. Its a sump type machine where you have an oil bath in the bottom. when you run the machine, the mechanical pump circulates the oil around the various parts. Mine had a window with sometype of drip tube where you could see the oil circulating. one thing i noticed on my machine was that that oil was also on the needle. im not sure if was intentional,but it was. So it may end up staining your leather. i didnt use my machine on leathe, just nylon and such. ALso, one important part. Its a "high speed" machine. at least faster then youre use to. I did get use to the speed and after a time, it was tooo slow for me. as far as pressor foot capacity, i think my machine was the -13 and had like 3/8" under the foot. i cant remember what the -12 had, maybe 1/4~5/16"? i think you could use it for such projects, but if you can, i would ask to run the machine. take some material over there and maybe even some leather you want to sew. IIRC, i was able to use at the heaviest #138 thread for my nylon projects. that would also be a good time to see if the pump is working. you didnt say how much he wants? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hiloboy Report post Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) hes asking 350. for it. with manuals and its on a new sewing table.. he said it runs great.. so we 'll see but i wanted to know what everyone here thought about this machine.. the thing you said about the oil on the leather that right there may be the deal killer for me..the good part for me is theres no shipping its here. any more thought would really help... Edited June 15, 2008 by hiloboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noah Report post Posted July 21, 2008 When I got mine it came with table, motor, needles, free set-up (he lived close-by), and instructions but no manual. I recently got a manual. I paid $450. for all that. If you like it and it does what you need get it. Good price I'd say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Hi Curt, The 241-12 is a medium duty machine with 5/16 presser foot lift so 1/4 inch is about the best you can expect it to sew. This is a factory machine designed for sewing denim and other heavys. The -13 was a little heavier with a little higher lift but the -12 is good. Note the pressure feed system. This machine was rated at about 4000 spm all day and could very well be setup to do that. I have seen one with a 2hp 3450 rpm clutch motor. That kind of machine you definitely don't want, it would cost too much to make it what you need, however one that does a controllable speed would be a keeper if it does what you need. You won't be able to find a 16 X 257 needle with a leather point, but a regular sharp point will work for the most part, ball points aren't that great though. A 21 is about the maximum needle size and will do 92 or 135 thread, use an 18 for 69 thread. Normally I would tell you to go get a Singer 111 or 211 or a Pfaff 545, but I know your choices are limited, ask around at some of the sewing shops (ask the repair guy) and see if there is an upholstery machine on the market, the Nakagima 280L is also a good machine, tell him you have $500-$600 to spend for a good one. Art will i found this machine close to where i live.. no shipping good side of it.. does anyone know any thing about a 241-12 and can it be used for sewing belts ,wallet, and hand tooled stuff like we do.. he told me all i would have to do is get a leather needle for it..but i don't know he may say anything to sale it.. all ideas welcome i got to get back to him soon...Mahalos Curt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fairytailover123456 Report post Posted August 29, 2018 need threading diagram for 241-12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mkinney Report post Posted March 8, 2021 I have in my possession. singer 31-15 3 of these: lewis 150-5: singer 107W1: singer 241-12: Chandler 406RB1: Email if any interest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
