Singer 97-10

[steadybrook]

Thanks,,Good to see these old machines are still being used.

[tnawrot2]

forgot to mention that you "can" use a 794 system needle ,but it is a shorter needle.

there is a 1000H needle [long], but of limited range and not much stock around I think..Bob Kovar would know.

Hi Darren..re: bobbins..sounds interesting....now that I remembered ...let me know what you can get as I have 3 machines that use this size..

Singer's 97-6 , 7-5 plus a ["Techsew"] 180...[well not a Techsew per se'... different brand ,but it came from the same Chinese factory]

Raphael Sewing Machine sell a bobbin ..how does this compare?

How would you use a 794 system needle in a 97-10, I am not concerned about the diameter of the needle, but the length . What would you have to adjust to compensate for the shorter needle? I tried everyplace in the US trying to find 97-4 needles without any success. Would cutting off a small piece of the shank of an old needle to compensate for the shorter length, and after putting LockTite or Super Glue on it and inserting it in the needle bar work?

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

I talked to Ron at Ferdco today! give him a call! its an easy thing to do! he knows exactly what needle to use, and you drop the need bar a little bit to get the hook on the bobbin assembly "timed" its a easy thing to do!

[CowboyBob]

Yes I've sold the 794S to people w/a 97 but I also tell you that you'll be limited to about 1/2" thickness.

Bob

[DavidMillsSaddlery]

Only quoting Ron from Ferdco, using a 794s serv-1 and dropping the needle bar down just a bit (to line up hook with the center of the groove (forgot proper term) he claims you shpould still be able to sew an inch, just lose a little of the foot lift...

I haven't tried it just yet...

Yes I've sold the 794S to people w/a 97 but I also tell you that you'll be limited to about 1/2" thickness.

Bob

[ryano]

Hello All, Been away healing for a very long time. I also have a 97-10 that I sew with and really like the machine. You do not have to go with the 794 needle system. I use landis one needles, size 200(25) leather point. You can buy these from Eli Slayball. He ones the Landis Sales company in Illinois 217-543-3464. The 97-10 has a 3.00" needle and the landis one has a 3.50" needle. I think you all know what to do now, cut the Landis one needle down to 3.00." Remove the material from the top side, not the pointed end. lol Now the Landis one needle is longer from the thread eye to the point. Only by very little, but enough to make the needle dull. Just take a die grinder or dremel and dust the shuttle drive so the needle will clear. Only take a minute or two and is well worth it to do so. Hope this helps.

[steadybrook]

Thanks.

[Springerpanhead]

I believe the 97-10 and the the 7-5 use the same needle 7x4 I use mostly 27s orders@allbrands.com has all you want or call them at

1-866-255-2726 or 1-800-739-7374

[tnawrot2]

The 7x3 & 7x4 needle is the same as a 794 needle which won't work in a 97-10 without adjusting the needle bar, The 97-10 takes a 97-3 or a 97-4 needle which aren't made anymore.

[CowboyBob]

He's right you have to lower the needlebar down to make the 7x3 needles work & then it will sew only 1/2" do to the end of the needlebar hitting to foot.Which is ok if you don't need to sew very thick but I doubt if it'll work very good that way for most people.