Members katsass Posted February 16, 2012 Members Report Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I'm interested in hearing how some of you apply the proverbial "light coat of oil," and evenly to veg tan. In my case it's HO veg tan and I use extra virgin olive oil and apply it with a trimmed piece of sheep skin. I get along fine if I want to end up with a project that's slightly darkened. My problem comes when I want the project to end up pretty light colored. I antique most of my work. Pure neatsfoot oil turns HO veg tan a darker reddish tone, which is good when that's what I want and for some projects. But when it come to getting a light, even coat of EVOO a lot of the time it seems I end up with some darker spots. It seems that the standard method of application is with a piece of sheep skin. Do some of you only use the sheep skin until the actual "skin," starts to get saturated and then switch to a fresh piece where the oil is only loaded into the fibers? Thanks in advance! Bill FWIW from the grumpy old guy; I use an airbrush. I stand off the project a short distance and give it a once over, and then get the hell away from it until (at least) the next morning. As soon as the oil hits you can see darker and lighter areas and, of course, the initial intention is to do it again to even things out. DON'T. I force myself to stay away for at least 12 hours. This gives the time needed for the oil to penetrate and even the saturation and color. It takes that long for the oil applied to the surface to wick through the fibers of the leather and disperse evenly. Keep it in a warmish area to aid in the process. I just finished a 56" gun belt (had to use half a cow for the damned thing) in a combination of thinned down Fiebing's Saddle Tan with a shot of Fiebings Dark Brown in it. Immediately after spraying with oil it showed some pretty good variations in color, but it got locked up out of the way 'till the following sunrise. Ends up nice and uniform. JMHO Mike Edited February 16, 2012 by katsass Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Ambassador pete Posted February 16, 2012 Ambassador Report Posted February 16, 2012 Give BEE NATURAL saddle oil a try. It doesn't darken at all! All I use since Chan Geer showed it to me. Best stuff ever. pete Quote
gringobill Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Posted February 22, 2012 FWIW from the grumpy old guy; I use an airbrush. I stand off the project a short distance and give it a once over, and then get the hell away from it until (at least) the next morning. As soon as the oil hits you can see darker and lighter areas and, of course, the initial intention is to do it again to even things out. DON'T. I force myself to stay away for at least 12 hours. This gives the time needed for the oil to penetrate and even the saturation and color. It takes that long for the oil applied to the surface to wick through the fibers of the leather and disperse evenly. Keep it in a warmish area to aid in the process. I just finished a 56" gun belt (had to use half a cow for the damned thing) in a combination of thinned down Fiebing's Saddle Tan with a shot of Fiebings Dark Brown in it. Immediately after spraying with oil it showed some pretty good variations in color, but it got locked up out of the way 'till the following sunrise. Ends up nice and uniform. JMHO Mike Mike, thanks for the reply and the airbrush idea. I have been out of town for a few days. I tried to respond to this thread while I was gone with my phone and it showed my response to you was sent but doesn't show up here? Anyway, I have wondered about spraying on oil with an airbrush and was wondering if it would spray properly, I was concerned it might be too thick. Maybe it needs to be warmed a little, then sprayed. I have used an airbrush before but never in my leatherwork. I may have to get another one and give it a shot. I can see how that would be a good way to apply oil and control the application. I know exactly what you are talking about when the areas turn different shades when you apply oil and the temptation to keep messing with it rather than leaving it alone and be absorbed on it's own. That's a sure fire recipe for applying too much oil. Pete, thanks for the tip on Bee Natural Saddle Oil, I've heard of it but have never used it. i will probably get some and give it a shot. Thanks everybody! Bill Quote
Members particle Posted February 22, 2012 Members Report Posted February 22, 2012 If you don't want it to darken, use Lexol. It won't darken the leather. Quote Eric Adamswww.adamsleatherworks.com | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram
terrymac Posted February 22, 2012 Report Posted February 22, 2012 Have to agree with Pete, Bee's Natural Saddle Oil is the best I have ever used. Doesn't darken at all, if anything it will give the leather a golden "hue". Try it and you won't use anything else. Terry Quote
Members katsass Posted February 23, 2012 Members Report Posted February 23, 2012 Mike, thanks for the reply and the airbrush idea. I have been out of town for a few days. I tried to respond to this thread while I was gone with my phone and it showed my response to you was sent but doesn't show up here? Anyway, I have wondered about spraying on oil with an airbrush and was wondering if it would spray properly, I was concerned it might be too thick. Maybe it needs to be warmed a little, then sprayed. I have used an airbrush before but never in my leatherwork. I may have to get another one and give it a shot. I can see how that would be a good way to apply oil and control the application. I know exactly what you are talking about when the areas turn different shades when you apply oil and the temptation to keep messing with it rather than leaving it alone and be absorbed on it's own. That's a sure fire recipe for applying too much oil. Pete, thanks for the tip on Bee Natural Saddle Oil, I've heard of it but have never used it. i will probably get some and give it a shot. Thanks everybody! Bill Bill, I use the absolute cheapest airbrush made. It's the 'Quick Change' set from Harbor freight. Runs on a hard fart --- very little pressure needed. I shoots neatsfoot oil, oil dyes and spirit based dyes easily. 'Taint very adjustable, but after a bit of practice you can do some stuff like this if you don't mind a bit of overspray on your table. Mike Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
gringobill Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Posted February 23, 2012 Bill, I use the absolute cheapest airbrush made. It's the 'Quick Change' set from Harbor freight. Runs on a hard fart --- very little pressure needed. I shoots neatsfoot oil, oil dyes and spirit based dyes easily. 'Taint very adjustable, but after a bit of practice you can do some stuff like this if you don't mind a bit of overspray on your table. Mike Guess I'll swing by Harbor Freight and check out what they have. I'm a regular there anyway. I have a compressor so maybe I won't have to rely on fart power but it's good to know that's an option. That's a nice looking rig there with the dark tinted edges, kind of like a sunburst guitar. It's kind of "space age," looking with the scope sight in the pistol, cool! Thanks again from one old fart to another, Bill Quote
Members Sylvia Posted February 23, 2012 Members Report Posted February 23, 2012 Runs on a hard fart --- very little pressure needed. <coffee spew> ha ha ha ha ha! Quote A teacher pointed at me with a ruler and said "At the end of this ruler is an idiot." I got detention when I asked "Which end?"
Members Suicide Posted February 24, 2012 Members Report Posted February 24, 2012 Runs on a hard fart --- very little pressure needed. Just imagined that setup! Quote My leatherwork gallery
Members Colt Hammerless Posted February 24, 2012 Members Report Posted February 24, 2012 Gringobill, if you're going to Harbor Freight, check out their double action airbrush. It's normally 25 bucks, but I believe it's still on sale for around $17. I need to go take a look at one myself. I've heard they're pretty good. And if it's not on sale, you probably have a mountain of 20% off coupons from HF laying around, if you're anything like me. If I didn't live in a warm part of AZ, I'd probably heat my home with those things. Colt Hammerless Quote
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