Members particle Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 I recently shipped out a pair of Glock 30 holsters to the same customer. After trying for several days to get the holsters to fit his Glock, he contacted me for further advice. I suggested he wrap the gun in thick freezer-grade zip-lock bags and let it set overnight. He said it helped a little, but it was still way too tight. I also suggested he try spraying a little Remington Dri Lube teflon spray inside to help break the friction - he happened to have some on-hand, but said it didn't really make a difference. I asked him to ship the holsters back to me so I could take a look and remake if necessary. I received the holsters today and tried each one on with my Rings G30 dummy. Frankly, I think both holsters are perfect - they draw very easily. The holsters are tight enough that the dummy won't fall out with the shake-test, but I can still draw them with very little effort. Is it possible my G30 is considerably undersized to the point my holsters are too small for the actual gun, even after the bagged break-in procedure? What about the Gen 4 vs Gen 3 differences? It's my understanding the Gen 4 is dimensionally the same where it matters (for holsters) with the only notable difference being the grip angle and grip texture. At this point, I'm debating just bumping my stitch lines out 1/16" in each direction and remaking them... Quote Eric Adamswww.adamsleatherworks.com | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram
mlapaglia Posted April 6, 2012 Report Posted April 6, 2012 I recently shipped out a pair of Glock 30 holsters to the same customer. After trying for several days to get the holsters to fit his Glock, he contacted me for further advice. I suggested he wrap the gun in thick freezer-grade zip-lock bags and let it set overnight. He said it helped a little, but it was still way too tight. I also suggested he try spraying a little Remington Dri Lube teflon spray inside to help break the friction - he happened to have some on-hand, but said it didn't really make a difference. I asked him to ship the holsters back to me so I could take a look and remake if necessary. I received the holsters today and tried each one on with my Rings G30 dummy. Frankly, I think both holsters are perfect - they draw very easily. The holsters are tight enough that the dummy won't fall out with the shake-test, but I can still draw them with very little effort. Is it possible my G30 is considerably undersized to the point my holsters are too small for the actual gun, even after the bagged break-in procedure? What about the Gen 4 vs Gen 3 differences? It's my understanding the Gen 4 is dimensionally the same where it matters (for holsters) with the only notable difference being the grip angle and grip texture. At this point, I'm debating just bumping my stitch lines out 1/16" in each direction and remaking them... I have a pre-rail G30 if you want me to take any measurements. Is his with or without a rail? Michael Quote The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering. Bruce Lee
Members troop Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 the biggest issues i have with complaints that my holsters are too tight are ALWAYS with Glocks. i think the fact that Glocks are so squared in their design may have something to do with how the holster grabs the gun when using the traditional stitch line measurements i use with any other gun. i have found that if i loosen it 1/16th of an inch it does help. with the 9 adn 40 cal glocks i force a glock 45 in it to stretch after its complete. that helps too. also try to not make such a heavy forward cant with the glock. again i think because of its shape too much of a forward angle makes it grab the gun Tony Quote The hand that feeds you also puts the chains around your neck.
Members Shooter McGavin Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 Double bag them for a couple of days and then see if a friend has a G29 or G30 you can borrow. I think the rings guns for the Glocks are undersized. I made a thumb break holster for a G26 and while perfect on the dummy gun, I was 3/4 of a snap away from closing up on the real deal. Luckily my customer was local and patient with me. Nice holster BTW. Im going to try my first VM2 inspired IWB here shortly. Any pointers you care to share would be appreciated. Quote Zlogonje Gunleathers
Members glockanator Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 Double bag them for a couple of days and then see if a friend has a G29 or G30 you can borrow. I think the rings guns for the Glocks are undersized. I made a thumb break holster for a G26 and while perfect on the dummy gun, I was 3/4 of a snap away from closing up on the real deal. Luckily my customer was local and patient with me. Nice holster BTW. Im going to try my first VM2 inspired IWB here shortly. Any pointers you care to share would be appreciated. If it was me I would take them into your local gun store and try them out. Worse case is you get to spend sometime in your favorite gun store. Quote
Members joshk Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 it sounds to me that your model is slightly out of spec and is a bit smaller than it should be.... I actually had the same exact issue a while back with a Ring's G30 model too.... all the holsters fit the model perfect but were just too tight for the users.... I wound up ordering another model and the problem was solved with no issues since.... if I would have had a mic I would've measured them both to see what the actual difference was.... Quote www.kolbesonleatherworks.com www.shopleatherworks.com www.facebook.com/kolbesonleatherworks
Denster Posted April 6, 2012 Report Posted April 6, 2012 Nice looking holsters Eric. If your customer could get his gun in the holster with a freezer strength bag on it then it isn't a problem with your holster design or fit. May be with his expectations. Also both of those designs will put tension on the weapon when worn and they do need to be worn for a few hours with the weapon in to allow a comfortable draw. You can speed this up with a spray of pure silicone oil. That is a tidbit I got from Red Nichols the reitred designer for Bianchi on another forum and it really does work. Quote
Members katsass Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Particle; One problem that has occurred infrequently to me, but that HAS reared it's ugly head once in a while, is that a customer may want a certain cant on the holster BUT that cant does not fit the customer. In other words, with the holster riding as the customer THINKS he wants it, his physical ergo-dynamics (how's that for a fancy word?) cause him to actually jamb the gun in the holster as he attempts to draw. The angle of his arm movement doesn't fit the angle of the holster. Just a thought. Mike Edited April 6, 2012 by katsass Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Members JoelR Posted April 6, 2012 Members Report Posted April 6, 2012 Rings blue guns for Glocks are notoriously under-sized. I've seen them fall out of molded Kydex holsters. Last gun I did for a Glock 37, I wrapped the blue gun in 6mil plastic and the fit was just slightly tight but was able to break-in in a few days - I'll use two layers of 6mil next time. Same holster had the same issue that Shooter mentioned with the retention strap. Had to stretch it when I delivered it and had the owner put a piece of cardboard over the end of the slide and let it stretch for a few extra days. As soon as I got home, I added a piece of .93 Kydex to the back of the slide so it would not happen again. Quote By the end of the show you start telling them you keep a few head of steers behind the house and go out and carve off a strip when you need it, it grows back in 5 or 6 weeks. - Art JR
Members Haystacker Posted April 7, 2012 Members Report Posted April 7, 2012 I always have the same problems with glocks. a couple of other things I have tried is use a sock instead of the freezer bag and rub a little clear shoe polish on the inside of the holster. Good luck. Quote haysholsters@hotmail.com NRA Life Member
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