G30 Holster Problems

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Does anyone have a real glock 17/22 that they can measure the slide width on before I try to make a holster from an undersized blue gun? I have micrometers to measure the blue gun but no real gun to test against.....if the blue gun is too undersized I was thinking I could put some tape on the slide to build it up.....

[J Hayes]

Does anyone have a real glock 17/22 that they can measure the slide width on before I try to make a holster from an undersized blue gun? I have micrometers to measure the blue gun but no real gun to test against.....if the blue gun is too undersized I was thinking I could put some tape on the slide to build it up.....

Per Glock Website 30mm/ 1.18", that's the frame just below slide. Slide on my G23 (40 compact) is1.010 if I remember how to read my vernier properly.

Jeremy

[mlapaglia]

Does anyone have a real glock 17/22 that they can measure the slide width on before I try to make a holster from an undersized blue gun? I have micrometers to measure the blue gun but no real gun to test against.....if the blue gun is too undersized I was thinking I could put some tape on the slide to build it up.....

1.0055 at the slide 1.1500 at the wide spot below the slide on the frame. This is on a Glock 17 Gen 4 25th anniversary issue. Let me know if you need any other measurements.

Michael

Edited April 20, 2012 by mlapaglia

[particle]

I forgot to post an update. The customer replied back a couple of days ago and said the fit is now perfect for both of his holsters without any additional chemical treatments/additives to the leather. I can't remember if I posted previously, but I inserted the dummy into a thick cotton gym sock, then inserted the sock'd dummy into a zip-lock bag, wrapped the bag around the trigger guard and slide, then holstered the dummy for a good 24 hours. The fit was pretty loose on the dummy after that, but not quite enough for the dummy to fall out without aggressive shaking.

That being said, I don't know what the customer's expectations are for how tight the retention should be. He may like overly loose fitting holsters, or perhaps he's just 'normal' and the dummies truly are that far undersized. I don't make a ton of holsters - only maybe 100+/- per year, but I've made a lot of Glock holsters and this is the first customer that's contacted me saying his holsters were way too tight.

Edited April 20, 2012 by particle

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1.0055 at the slide 1.1500 at the wide spot below the slide on the frame. This is on a Glock 17 Gen 4 25th anniversary issue. Let me know if you need any other measurements.

Michael

Thank you, thats exactly what I needed.....My Blue gun measured about 25 thou under on both dimensions...... I dont suppose you have access to a 21 for the same measurements?

Thanks again

Don

[Campchair]

I've found the "Blue Guns" are very undersized. I got several, but gave up on them entirely, as the plastic material apparently shrinks at different rates depending on what lot of plastic they are using at the time. They are designed for police training, and the exact size doesn't really matter that much, not like it does when you are making a holster for a duty officer or for CCW carry. Since I have a gun shop, I usually have access to (or can borrow) a used Glock,Springfield/Walther/whatever and I do my fitting to the actual piece. If this is for a really big order, or for something you make a lot of, you could either (if the laws in the area where you are located permit) purchase one of your own (new or used). If you are doing this for a living, the price COULD be deducted from your business profits as a "fixture" or Pattern Piece". That sort of item can be depreciated over time, just like tools, etc. Then you would have the real McCoy to use. An old holster maker once told me about the fellow he learned his craft from. He located an aluminum foundry and borrowed (with a payback deal in holsters!) used guns from several nearby shops, friends, and even the local police department (This was a while ago; different world...) which he used as patterns, and had aluminum replicas made of the more popular models he made. He said they had to be wrapped in masking tape to allow for the shrinkage of the aluminum, (10% or so) but when he got through, he had some everlasting patterns! He did a lot of "bartering" in this deal; said he made holsters for free really steady for about 6 weeks or so, but it was well worth it. .

Campchair

[mlapaglia]

Thank you, thats exactly what I needed.....My Blue gun measured about 25 thou under on both dimensions...... I dont suppose you have access to a 21 for the same measurements?

Thanks again

Don

Nope, Sorry, 17,19,30 1952 Pre-27, M&P 9, 9C, and in 3 days a new M&P Shield.

Michael