Servo Motor Suitable For Seiko Te-6 Cylinder Arm Advice?

[Bigfoot]

Hi all,

I'm thinking of getting a "Reliable sewquiet 4000" to replace the current clutch motor.

I'm new to machine sewing and most of what I do is short runs but very curvy and normally in stitch grooves so I would probably want the smaller pulley too so that it is as slow as possible.

Does anyone know if this motor is suitable? The clutch motor on it at the mo is a Wimsew 400w 4P, 3Amp, 50Hz, and I'm not even sure if this is the right size but it seems powerful enough.... the only difference that i can see on the specs is that the sewquiet is 2Amps and the clutch is 3Amps but i have no idea if this matters??

Would I be better getting the bigger sewquiet 5000 or is the 4000 OK as a replacement??

Thanks in advance for your help and advice...

[gottaknow]

The main difference between the two is the horsepower rating. The 4000 is 1/2hp and the 5000 is 3/4hp. The 4000 would probably be adequate, but if you can, getting the 5000 would allow you to mount it to a different machine with larger demands in the future. With a servo motor, if the 4000 is overworked, it's protection circuit will shut the motor off and you'll have to reset it. You'd likely have no issues with the 5000, especially with the smaller pulley.

Regards, Eric

Edited October 15, 2012 by gottaknow

[Gump]

Bigfoot; I recently put a 5000 on my singer 153, with the 90mm pulley and i wish I had gotten the 50mm pulley. Motor is plenty powerful, but the initial start is a little jumpy if you don't handwheel it a little. A 153 is a cylinder arm ,compound feed machine similar in capabilities to yours. So yes, go with the 5000 with the small pulley and you should be happy with the performance. And as Gottaknow said it is also all the motor you will need for a larger machine if you ever upgrade. Gump.

[Northmount]

The heavier the leather you are going to sew, the smaller you want the motor pulley. Machine heads that only have a 4" pulley will need a pulley speed reducer set when sewing leather 1/4" thick, else needs hand wheeled to start, and might be a little fast to control on short runs and intracate curves.

Tom

[Bigfoot]

Thanks all for your comments...in the end i decided to go for the smaller 1/2 HP motor as i will probably keep this machine when i upgrade as it is a handy cylinder arm.

Anyhoo, fitted the motor last night and it seems like it will be a vast improvement on the clutch motor.

The main thing I was worried about was if it had enough torque to push through the leather at slow speed but it will punch 8mm veg tan with no hand start.

It does take off quickly and even with the small pulley it wants to go as soon as you touch the pedal but at least now I know what to expect...with practice, this will definitely work for me.

Thanks again for your suggestions....I guess i now need to find a machine to attach my old clutch motor too!!

[J Hayes]

Bigfoot; I recently put a 5000 on my singer 153, with the 90mm pulley and i wish I had gotten the 50mm pulley. Motor is plenty powerful, but the initial start is a little jumpy if you don't handwheel it a little. A 153 is a cylinder arm ,compound feed machine similar in capabilities to yours. So yes, go with the 5000 with the small pulley and you should be happy with the performance. And as Gottaknow said it is also all the motor you will need for a larger machine if you ever upgrade. Gump.

How is that sew quiet 5000 working for you? I have a Singer 153 also and am looking at servos to replace my clutch?

Thanks

Jeremy

[Gump]

Jeremy, I put a 2" pulley on it and set at 500 rpm it will start slow and smooth and i can go stitch by stitch and stop with the needle up or down as needed. I like it !!. Gump

[J Hayes]

Gump

No need for a speed reducer? That would be great! How many layers of what can it handle with that motor?

Thank you!

Jeremy

[Gump]

Jeremy to be honest I have only run 2 layers of 8 oz veg tan and it good on straight runs but for real tight corners I still handwheel a little for more control. I usually use my 132k6 for sheaths and holsters with a welt because I can run up to 346 on it. I mostly sew 2-3 layers of 4 oz oiltan on the 153, and it is like sewing cotton, perfect control and lots of torque. Gump

[J Hayes]

Gump

Thanks. I'll probably run about the same as you on my 153, I still hand stitch my holsters. All these motor choices are confusing, one dealer recommended me the Consew CS1000 over the Sewquiet 5000, not really sure why, especially since the Consew was less money. Anyway a local dealer carries the Consew, I'll get that Monday with a small pulley and report back in case anyone else is following this, and I hope my results are the same as yours Gump.

Thanks again

Jeremy