Tanners Bond Contact Cement Changed Again? Arrgh!

[mmirob]

I have been using gallon jugs of Tandy's contact cement 4085 in their red bordered container. Worked great! Better than weldwood IMHO. Purchased the latest version in a green bordered container labeled 2525-04. It is a clear thin glue that does NOT work like the previous version. Takes a long time to set up comparatively and does not have the gluing strength. Has this changed or have I just purchased the worng can? Sorry for the rant but what gives?

[TwinOaks]

You probably picked up a "low VOC" version of it. I don't have personal experience with the tanner's bond, but Weldwood has their 'regular' in a red border and the 'low VOC' in a green border.....so I'm just extrapolating that other companies probably did something similar.

[Luke Hatley]

I have been using the one with the Green Border and it works great for me... Better than Masters ....I am one of the few that Masters & Barge just tears me up.......I have NO POBLEMS WITH THE NEW TANNERS BOND..

[mmirob]

I did notice that it does have low VOC. 303 vs. the older 499. Appearantly low VOC does mean inferior adhesion. Dissappointed nonetheless. I hope they still make the "red" can version, will check tomorrow and report. Unequivocally, the adhesion difference is significant. Glued two identical strips to same leather. Green version tears off separating the glue, red version tears the leather before releasing. Suppose if you never used the red can version you have no point of comparison. Anybody else have experience here? Chime in. Is the older version still available in another brand?

[Studio-N]

Sorry, but the green can is what they carry now. The red can clearly read "Barge" on it. The green can stuff is definitely different. The fumes from the barge made stuff killed me. This stuff has a completely different

smell so it's definitely been reformulated and it doesn't bother me. The red can has been discontinued for over a year so it's doubtful anyone has any left.

[GlenH]

Tandy has had to reformulate or drop a lot of their chemical based products due to government regulations. They're not just doing this for no reason.

[Sparks]

I just purchased a can of Barge Contact Cement to replace my red-bordered Tanner's Bond Contact Cement which was made by Barge. I am expecting them to be the same. I do have a question...the side of my old Tanners Bond Contact Cement (v-4085 red labeled) can says, "Thin with Tanners Bond Thinner." If they changed the formulation of the new Tanners Bond Contact Cement, did they also change the thinner? If so, should I be thinning with Barge Cement Thinner?

[mmirob]

Dont know the answer to the question on thinner but this is not a government regulation but simply a tandy "change" in product attempting to be "green" I called barge, and they still make their Barge product (red & yellow can) just not the proprietary tandy formulation. Masters still makes their product. Government did not force any reformulations. Remember we heard the same thing about Neat-lac. Yet it is readily produced under a different trade name.

[billymac814]

I just got a letter from Springfield and they will be reproducing Tandys old formula. You might check with them if your not happy with what you're using.

I personally use Renia colle de cologne but I bond more than just leather.

[machinehead]

Renia is the Mercedes of contact cements IMHO. Luke, I get " torn up" by Barge and Master"s as well. After years of exposure I think that I have about reached my limit.