Members piddler Posted January 6, 2013 Author Members Report Posted January 6, 2013 Found a Cobra 4P I'm probably going to buy if I can get the price right. Quote Old Guy that can't see too well anymore.
Trox Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) You are lucky to have these member dealer nearby that stands behind their products. These dealers will always pick up the phone and help their customers, answer their email. A dealer on the Internet or far away in an other country can ignore you when you need their support. Our member dealers cannot, you can all be sure about that. Unless you are an experienced operator or mechanic, you will need this support. When your new machine will not sew or you find out there are some parts broken or missing, and the seller will not answer your calls. Then what seemed like a good deal can turn into a nightmare. The Juki TSC 441 comes standard with blanket feet's, plate and feed-dog,and so does their clones. I had to buy leather attachment and set up my 441 clone myself. If I lived in the USA I would have saved me the trouble and bought a Cobra 4 or Cowboy 4500 leather machine. Tor Edited January 6, 2013 by Trox Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Ken Nelson Posted January 7, 2013 Members Report Posted January 7, 2013 That Robert guy on Ebay has poor feedback, Take the good advice and call one of the dealers on this site, PLEASE!!! Ken Quote
Trox Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 Listen to what Ken says, at least wait until Bob get answer from Juki. Then you will know how trustworthy this seller is. The Cowboy and Cobra dealers has used machines too, and different way of financing them. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Cobra Steve Posted January 8, 2013 Report Posted January 8, 2013 You should call Bob, Ronnie, or myself and get as much info as you can. All of us have good reputations and will help you as much as we can. Steve Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Trox Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Hi Steve, how are you. Have you ever seen a genuine nine inch Juki 441 "S"? I guess that "S" suppose to stand for short, thats not Juki language. No I believe the "S" is from the clone`s sign, as on the similar Econosew clone in Piddlers post #8. Piddler, you asked for help; now you have all the dealers present. Non of our other members (certainly not me, anyway) has something to gain from advising you to use this dealers. We knows the importance of support on Chinese sewing machines. And the fact that what might look like the super deal on Internet, often turns out to be the most expensive one. If you going to buy a Cobra, Cowboy or Techsew, buy it from their respective dealers. Not from somebody on EBay who sells machines that looks phony. You can call them on free phone lines, they might have something used too. Good luck Tor Edited January 9, 2013 by Trox Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members piddler Posted January 9, 2013 Author Members Report Posted January 9, 2013 I want to thank everyone for all the great advise. After a long weekend of uncertainty I "finally" ended upoing with a new Techsew 4100 with premium accs package. Ron worked with me for 2 days while my credit union couldnt seem to make my debit card work outside the country. I bet we spent a couple hours on the phone all together, if this is any indication to the kind of customer service I can expect in the future then you couldnt hope for better. Cant wait to get it. Quote Old Guy that can't see too well anymore.
Techsew Ron Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 I want to thank everyone for all the great advise. After a long weekend of uncertainty I "finally" ended upoing with a new Techsew 4100 with premium accs package. Ron worked with me for 2 days while my credit union couldnt seem to make my debit card work outside the country. I bet we spent a couple hours on the phone all together, if this is any indication to the kind of customer service I can expect in the future then you couldnt hope for better. Cant wait to get it. Thanks Dave. In response to that Juki 441 short arm machine on ebay...I've personally never seen this machine made by Juki before. If it isn't on the Juki website, it's probably not legit. Ron Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
CowboyBob Posted January 9, 2013 Report Posted January 9, 2013 Ok,I just found out what I thought & it's a fake! Ron's correct they never made a short arm. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Trox Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Ok,I just found out what I thought & it's a fake! Ron's correct they never made a short arm. Yes, I was 99 % sure of that too. However, when you accusing someone of cheating you got to be 100 % certain. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
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