Chinese 29-K Clone

[Anti19]

Hi everybody!

I'm currently looking for a sewing machine (medium weight), specifically for a big'ol patcher, and came across some chinese 29K clones (that looks post apocalyptic) on ebay, at a pretty low price.

This is the machine:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leather-Sewing-Machine-Shoe-Patcher-Singer-29K-Adler-Repair-Cobbler-Antique-/200876595581?pt=BI_Sewing_Machines&hash=item2ec52d997d&_uhb=1#shId

Anybody has experience with it?

Edited January 9, 2013 by Anti19

[machinehead]

This machine has no belt pulley for running it with a motor so unless you fabricate a shaft with a v belt pulley you are going to be holding your work with one hand and turning the hand crank with the other. Not unmanageable for small projects which is what this machine is designed for. When turning the crank it is best to move your arm from the shoulder and not the elbow or you will hurt for sure.

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Hi,

I sell these machines in Australia but modify them and add my own instructions as the machine is very ordinary when it arrives from China. If the machine is unmodified and untested then it is possible you will have problems getting it going properly.

There is a kit I am developing that uses a 700W variable speed drill (supplied by the owner) and a foot switch to allow electric running.

I could probably supply you a machine - delivered - for slightly more than this but it will come with a tool kit and ongoing support. As I am regular here you always have the option of dumping shit on me if you are not happy

Hi everybody!

I'm currently looking for a sewing machine (medium weight), specifically for a big'ol patcher, and came across some chinese 29K clones (that looks post apocalyptic) on ebay, at a pretty low price.

This is the machine:

http://www.ebay.ca/i...97d&_uhb=1#shId

Anybody has experience with it?

[Art]

Darren from down under went on some in a post some time ago about what he had to do to these machines to make them serviceable. There was a pretty big laundry list. The price is right for a sewing machine mechanic or hobbiest, but for a person new to this, spend your money on a real 29. If you can get a set-up one from Darren (and he is the only one I have heard of to take these on) then I am sure it will run well for you. It helps to have knowledge of the 29, the Landis 1, and maybe a No.9 or Pearson. If you are not in that league, don't buy it on eBay.

Art

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Thanks Art!

Most of us who know a bit about machines could buy anything off ebay and get it doing but for the novice it is a different story. I dislike dumping on other dealers but people need to be wary and I suspect that this is the guy I tried to help get going by telling him the mods he needed to make but he refused to listen to me. Then the prick had the temerity to steal my photographs off flikr for his listing and when challenged by my business partner (the owner of the photographs) he said that he had my permission!

Unmodified and untested these machines have about a 30% chance of working when they arrive from China. The last batch I bought from the supplier of the one shown on ebay had a problem with the milling of the slot on the handwheel for the locating pin. The machines must be tested with one handwheel which has the correct milling but when the one supplied in the kit is used the timing between needle and foot is out so you have to adjust the two cams for foot lift and foot feed.

[J Hayes]

Hi,

I sell these machines in Australia but modify them and add my own instructions as the machine is very ordinary when it arrives from China. If the machine is unmodified and untested then it is possible you will have problems getting it going properly.

There is a kit I am developing that uses a 700W variable speed drill (supplied by the owner) and a foot switch to allow electric running.

I could probably supply you a machine - delivered - for slightly more than this but it will come with a tool kit and ongoing support. As I am regular here you always have the option of dumping shit on me if you are not happy

Whats the improved version go for? What does it take to get to the US? Is the handwheel wide enough to machine a groove in to accept a V belt?

Jeremy

[Anne Bonnys Locker]

Hi Jeremy,

Can do one for $220 as you don't pay sales tax here and I cannot ship it with the base or oil.

Uninsured semail is $130 but will take a while to get there. Airmail is $210

Whats the improved version go for? What does it take to get to the US? Is the handwheel wide enough to machine a groove in to accept a V belt?

Jeremy

[J Hayes]

Hi Jeremy,

Can do one for $220 as you don't pay sales tax here and I cannot ship it with the base or oil.

Uninsured semail is $130 but will take a while to get there. Airmail is $210

I might be interested in one of these, do they sew well?

[billymac814]

By the sounds of it about 30% sew. I'd either get one from Aunt Bonnie's locker and have it work right or just find a used singer or Adler in the same price range.

I will say though that these are cool looking machines. If I had money to burn I'd buy one just to look at it all day. I have a powered Adler and a Singer on a treadle and a 29-4 that works but is a display so I doubt I'd ever use it though.

[J Hayes]

No, no money to burn, if I did get one it'd be from Bonny's, I've got plenty of stuff that needs repairs, don't need another. A Singer would be great, just don't see them for sale near me, well there was a 29-4 rust bucket someone wanted $800 for, I didn't bother. I keep looking though, maybe one will come my way. Hmm, one more machine may push my wife over the edge though, machine shop in the garage, leather shop in the basement & kitchen, wonder what I can put in the living room.....

Edited February 5, 2013 by J Hayes