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My First Saddle

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Your First Saddle????????? Damned!, you deserve compliments for sure! Another job that makes me think that I should try tooling. Thanks for showing.

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Unbelievable!!! WOW!

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Holy Hell! That is some amazing work!

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That is beautiful work! I can't believe it is your first saddle.

Pat

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Now that is impressive, hard to believe that it is your first saddle!

I realy like how you incorporated the knotwork style in with the traditional tooling!

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Very nice work. My question is where did you get the tree (inside frame) for it. Can you post pictures of the tree before you covered it?

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Thank you very much for everybody. I am very pleasure that you like my saddle.

I had got a traditional kazakh tree, and unfortunately I have no photo of it.

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  On 1/28/2013 at 1:28 PM, benlilly1 said:

Whoa, that's nice!!

Clever! Lol!

I am NOT amazed by this. But, I am still impressed. That guy can do anything with leather and he has mastered leather tooling. After that it's a matter of construction. It IS an impressive piece of work, and I am a huge fan. Will the braid at the top rub on the horse at all?

Edited by immiketoo

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Is this traditional Kazakh construction or an arranged (arranged by you) marriage of Kazakh and western methods? Where does the inspiration for the tooling designs come from? This is all extremely interesting to these tired old western eyes!

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FANTASTIC design/tooling work. I aspire to a first attempt 1/10th that good.

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Thanks.

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I have seen your other work and I know you are a master of the masters in leather art...but this saddle is a step up, if there can be one at your level .......guess what I am trying to say is:

You are an amazing artist and you are the most artistic leather craftsman here on this forum!!!

Greetings

Jimbob

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  On 1/28/2013 at 9:13 AM, arbalet12 said:

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Congrats!

As usual, your carving is amazing, top notch, fantastic!

I am a hug fan of your artwork :D

Stand up among the usual "western style carving"

It's different and it's nice and interesting! Keep up with that (this is not me who would say otherwise ;) )

Regarding the saddle building part :

I tried to look on internet to find some good pictures of horses with that Kazak kind of saddle and i haven't found some

So i would be very interested to see one if you have one ;)

I do not know how those Kazack saddles are technically done specifically and i would be interested if you could explain a bit more.

From where i seat, it does look a bit like western saddles (with skirts, i mean - at least)

Here what i think from what i can see (this is only my opinion and some interrogations ) if someones wants to add some insight : feel free to do it ;)

It seems that the length of the skirts is huge (maybe even too long)

=> back part (from the back cantle to the extremity ) feel like it's too long . it will rub hard on the loins of the horse and hurt him

=> same with the front part , it looks like really long too and would dig in the shoulders

IF we're speaking of a saddle meant to go on a horseback and work

If it's a display saddle.....we do not care ;)...no harm done! ;)

can you confirm? or explain more, please?

That's why i asked some pictures with saddle on the horse AND more technical informations about Kazak saddles

I find it really interesting to share and compare ;)

And again : congrats for the art work ;)

By the way : you should post it on the saddle construction part of the forum! ;)

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  On 2/5/2013 at 2:15 PM, Aurelie said:

Congrats!

Thank you for your detailed answer, i waited such type of questions. I have some doubts about the constructions too. When I tried on this saddle on the horse it was end-to-end, and i dont know how it will be while driving-riding. It is my first saddle. I will photo it on the horse soon.

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  On 2/8/2013 at 4:31 AM, arbalet12 said:

Thank you for your detailed answer, i waited such type of questions. I have some doubts about the constructions too. When I tried on this saddle on the horse it was end-to-end, and i dont know how it will be while driving-riding. It is my first saddle. I will photo it on the horse soon.

The "Masters" for this kind of question, you will find them here : http://leatherworker...hp?showforum=62

You will find there the most constructive of answers to specific replies you ask or "criticism" or advices.

By the way, you've built your saddle following what kind of "book" or "principle"?

I am in the business for 2 years and what i can tell you :

- there is NOT a single way of doing it => you have to find what works for you.

- Everyone or almost everyone is telling you so but when you do differently you're finger pointed (been there, done that)

- There are very good unknown saddlers around and Justice is not really done to them often

You will hear a lot about/from the "old known ones" .....good ones because they've got 20 or so years of experience behind them ( And contrary to what most say = they've done experiment and mistake like EVERYBODY ) . As i like to say : Rome has not been built overnight....

But sometimes the "roots" or the "essence" (as i call them) of a western saddle - or else- is forgotten => This is a "tool" and must be adapted to what it should do => riding horses , being confortable for the horse in ANY situation and confortable for the rider ...then after that IF it's nice looking? it's a bonus ;)

but what would you do with a F****G AWSOME saddle that sore your horse? ( i am making here a "bigger" picture but i can tell you that i have seen some 3000$ worth saddles that i would not put on a horse)

So? my advice :

Get all the feedback you can have .

Do not take everything as "Godwords" because this is Mr "X" saying so.

Think by yourself and know that everything is linked to "common sense" .

Read as many books you can regarding saddle making , saddle-fitting , talk of this with as many people you can.

horse riders included - even if most of them - in france at least - know nought about saddle fitting and saddles . it's just a tool for them so you can't blame them ...it should be a saddle maker job to worry about that.

Everything you will hear will not be good though, so be prepared to think and and select your information.

Take everything that can help you improve your job and try to leave the rest aside (jealousy, stupidity and so-on...)

and above all :

Develop your OWN creativity !

You do not do "western style carving" so you're good to nothing??? = forget about it!

Things changes for the best in time

I am not mincing my words here , i do not have friends for that and to be honest i do not give a F***K for that.

I am just sometimes tired of that because i am a "rookie", i do things differently (and sometimes better than some guys) and i am a girl to top it of ...and guess what?That might "tick off" their virility + Girls are supposed to not being able to build saddles ;) (Yes i have a 2 years old daugther and it does not symplify the job ...but then????)

SO GO! Arbalet! Keep going :D and keep us posted on your work

As for me, i will always be there to answer your questions (if i am able to ) or point you toward some books or guys that can help you :D

Edited by Aurelie

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:D

Edited by Aurelie

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Very nice work. I really like the look and design.

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Really a great job on this saddle. I have never seen a saddle like this one. And your first one to boot. WOW.

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Wow Nice!

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  On 2/8/2013 at 8:22 AM, Aurelie said:

:D

Thank you for your remarks, it is very important for me.

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