1911 Avenger

[glockanator]

So long story short, I made a 1911 avenger for a 4 inch Kimber. A coworkers husband ended up buying it from me. I have asked her a couple of times about how he liked and she would never give me a straight answer. Well I see him today for the first time and ask him about it. He tells me that he cant get his Colt or Sig 1911 in the holster. And that he has been stretching it with a flash light. I explained that if he wanted to bring the gun and the holster back I would stretch it by getting it wet and re molding the holster. He then said that is the wrong way to go about stretching a holster. I tried to explain to him that it was for a Kimber at which he said it shouldn't matter if it was Kimber or Colt it should still fit. I told him I would remake the holster but would need the other one back first.

I am kinda at a lose here. This is the first holster to be "returned". I guess my ego is more bruised than anything. Does anyone have an Avenger colt pattern they would be willing to share?

[Dwight]

When you have tried unsucessfully to keep someone from doing something stupid, . . . best thing is to leave em alone.

He obviously knows more than you do

He then said that is the wrong way to go about stretching a holster.

, or at least he thinks so.

May God bless,

Dwight

[Shooter McGavin]

Is he trying to put a commander sized Colt into the Kimber holster? Because if so, the Commander is a tad longer than the Kimber.

[camano ridge]

I would not let your ego be bruised. If he is willing to waist his time trying to make a gun fit that it was not made for he must be happy with the holster just not the fit. I would say it's his ego that is a little to big, and with all of his knowledge of holsters I am wondering why he didn't make his own.

[chiefjason]

Sig is in their own little design world. They have a larger slide on the top than your standard 1911. Heck, some purists refuse to call them 1911's. I built one recently from a customers Sig. My Colt blue gun would not fit the holster. And SM is right, the standard commander length is 4.25". So that's an issue too.

[George B]

I've had a couple with the same problem. In both cases the customer was good enough about it to bring me the 1911 and make a new one.

Fully formed and detailed Avengers and belt slots, I have to have the 1911 or the exact dummy gun to guaranty fit.

There are way too many variations on 1911s for a detailed one size fits all holster. In my humble opinion.

Since starting gun shows I now make Avengers with a tension screw and belt slots with a little more forgiveness in stitch line and barrel length.

For a detailed holster I do require the actual 1911.

Has cut down a little on that model sales but with a lot less stress and customer complaints. I can deal with that.

On the flip side, I always sell out of the "generic" 1911 holsters at each show.

You attempted to correct the problem for your buyer, that's all you can do in my opinion.

[glockanator]

I would normally have told him I would not warranty the holster since he stretched it with a mag light but since his wife is a good friend of mine I am going above and beyond. I will post pictures of the holster he returned a little later.

[mlapaglia]

Selling to relatives of friends is often a problem. Sounds like you have this under control. Get him to document how to stretch a holster and we can all learn the secret.

[glockanator]

[chiefjason]

Oh, now I see the problem. He obviously bought one of the new round 1911's.