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So they seem to have went from a normal small coil spring next to the foot lifting lever to this?

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20181204_172048.thumb.jpg.fcad49fa2a1683d07617ef12ae75ff1e.jpgThis is the parts on the back. (bushings were still not changed yet)

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That´s where that small pin goes, in the middle of your tension spring assembly stud. And before assembly the disks were a little corroded and pitted so as the old 335 had a double tension assembly the spare disks were a perfect drop in again for this.

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These are the old pitted ones.

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This was needing taken off and cleaned as water had gotten in and rusted the inside.

It has a small grub screw on the back holding it in.

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Right then, so everything was now back on the way it came. I tried it on a small piece of leather and it seemed like there was a lot of pulling going on underneath, so followed the thread path, pulling the thread through by hand and nothing?? so out with the bobbin basket again and look for burrs etc?? sanded, polished, sanded, polished...... nothing strange. tried again and same thing?? looked under the feed dog sanded, and same thing. tried the feed dog and plate from the old 335 and same again after e few stitches??? looked at where the thread was breaking and it seemed near the needle or just right under??? set the needle height again? same thing, so took out the new needle and put in another new needle :spoton:  the new needle must have had a burr on the eye! 

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Needle had been hitting here at some time.

Toe of foot broken off

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Needle clamp screw missing. this is the only metric thread i have found up until know. M3

Needle not hitting the bobbin case.

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they had a shorter needle in before.

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Old bobbin case hit quite a few times with the needle. the other 335 bobbins do not fit in here?? looks like the wrong bobbin was put in??

Feed dog adjusted to the left just in case the thread was getting trapped there.

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Needle plate and feed dog from the old one on. this Accessory plate was also found a while back on ebay. it can be adjusted in height to match up with your needle plate. this is the other option to the binder plate and recessed one, but would need a half plate to complete. this is where the material/roller guide goes and possibly some types of binders.

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So, Back with the setup that it came with and another try, seems like that toe has to be smoothed down before use??

Well, that is where it is at the moment. in need of a table,motor etc..and will probably be used just for binding at the moment but i have to move something out i think...hehehehe. Soren has sent some spare screws he found in a box and the bracket for the belt guard so when they get here i can update you on that if you like. Big thanks again to Danishman.

 As you have seen this pfaff was in good condition underneath and only needed a little cleaning and oiling, unlike the old one which had been abandoned and then thrown about by the courier service. This one was like a a day trip compared with the other journey :lol:. But i am sure there are some bad cases looking like new out there??? I hope this can help somebody if they are looking to do the same thing.

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Really enjoy following your work, Jimi.  You and some of the others are an inspiration.  Makes me question my decision not to restore any more machines.

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1 hour ago, Evo160K said:

Really enjoy following your work, Jimi.  You and some of the others are an inspiration.  Makes me question my decision not to restore any more machines.

Hey Al, how ya doing. Thanks, but that was nothing compared with yer overhauling of those 45ks :lol: 

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Very nice.  Thank you for all the pictures.

 

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Nice one. Looks like you got a good one there jimi, mostly surface rust and dirt! That accessory plate looks like a neat idea, lots of holes for attaching all sorts of things.

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20 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

The best machine now is the Adler 669 of which I have one

That looks like a good modern 69/335 looking machine there Glenn. I am sure that costs an arm and a leg and maybe another leg.. but if it is well made then it will last for ages, that we know. Seems like in the photos of it, it has two tension units?? is that correct??, Jimi.

 

20 hours ago, ensitmike said:

This is so awesome. I want to do this to a Singer or Adler patcher, hopefully soon B)

Hi Mike, thanks, your patcher will be a different ball game to this. there are a few posts on the patcher machines on this forum. here is one but it is not as extensive as this post. All the best and good luck, Jimi.

 

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12 hours ago, Scoutmom103 said:

Very nice.  Thank you for all the pictures.

No problem scoutman and thanks.

10 hours ago, dikman said:

Nice one. Looks like you got a good one there jimi, mostly surface rust and dirt! That accessory plate looks like a neat idea, lots of holes for attaching all sorts of things.

Hi Dikman, yes not a lot to do to this one, and the plate as usual came with no screws, but i tried the singer thumbscrews and seemed to work in a couple of them so it must be ??? oh cant remember the thread ??? 11/64 ???

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Great job as usual Jimi.  You want to get the correct needle clamp screw as the one you have is sticking way out and that can be a problem if you are sewing something tight.  You ever put the correct wing screw and locking clamp on the base plate you made on the  on the older 335 you restored?  .  If Pfaff parts are to expensive for the Pfaff, go to Consew wingnut, clamp and screw from a 227 on the Pfaff.  

glenn

You can get generic feet for the latest 335 you are doing cheap on eBay or College Sewing.

glenn

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And yes, I have gotten needles with a sharp edge or burr in the eye.  It does happen.  Also, new generic bobbin case for 335 are fairly cheap to buy.

glenn

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2 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

You ever put the correct wing screw and locking clamp on the base plate you made on the  on the older 335 you restored? 

No i never put anything on there yet Glenn, i did not feel the need as the belt holds it down well enough. I could easily make one up from some steel plate but never got there, also i have seen them on Aliexpress i think??, it was cheap also. i did get feet and a couple of bobbin cases with bobbins there also but one has already popped the latch so they are not the best but okey to get you going until something better comes along. the feet are real tight also, not a good fit. I don´t know if college would have good fitting ones either?? they look like the same ones on Aliexpress?? I always try to find cheap original used parts if i can as they should work first time and no problems. As long as they are not to worn and that is where sometimes you take the gamble. Thanks for the info glenn. Regards, jimi.

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One thing you may not know Jimi is the 335-17/B is a binder machine yes but it is a symmetric feed binder.  To make a it that kind of binder, you must use the cover plate the moves.  If not, the old plate with all the holes makes it a no binder machine or one you can install other items on that plate.  Symmetric feed binders are more rare and work better.

glenn

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21 minutes ago, shoepatcher said:

One thing you may not know Jimi is the 335-17/B is a binder machine yes but it is a symmetric feed binder.  To make a it that kind of binder, you must use the cover plate the moves.  If not, the old plate with all the holes makes it a no binder machine or one you can install other items on that plate.  Symmetric feed binders are more rare and work better.

Hi Glenn, yes i did check that up after i got it, i don´t use the binder a lot at the moment but will try to leave one of the 335´s dedicated to that purpose. when you change the feed dog and needle plate to normal sewing, as i have it at the moment, i find it best with the plate off because i rest my hand or fingers sometimes on the arm and the plate will move your hand. For sure the synchronized binding feature is a plus to have underneath there when needed. Regards, Jimi.

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Great work Jimi,

I liked all the pictures, as they really do speak a thousand words...

I am impressed with your determination and speed.. .I am a little embarrassed having done nothing  with my Pfaff 193...   I have taken your advice and a Pfaff 194 will be working its way to me sometime in the new year...

Happy New Year...

Alex

 

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5 hours ago, alexitbe said:

Great work Jimi,

I liked all the pictures, as they really do speak a thousand words...

I am impressed with your determination and speed.. .I am a little embarrassed having done nothing  with my Pfaff 193...   I have taken your advice and a Pfaff 194 will be working its way to me sometime in the new year...

Happy New Year...

Alex

Thanks for that Alex, and hope your 194  reaches you in good condition this time. Happy new year. Jimi.

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Just a quick update, I went back to the bobbin case to see what was going on with it as i found that both new and old spools from the old 335 would not fit?? so i took out the springs (tension one also) and gave them a clean and looked up the number and lo and behold it is the correct one for this machine??? On the old 335 the case just says 9075 which is referring to just the case, the number here 91 009 076 91 is for the case,latch,springs and screws.

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So what was the problem here? if you look at the case you can see that it has been hit a good few times each side with the needle and those two have no support under them? looks like they put in a smaller spool to overcome this problem. Tried the spool again and saw the two ends were where it was touching.

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So i took the pliers and carefully bent the ends out again.

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Sorry for the small letters here, just says can you see the difference in the gap each side? the outer side on the right is what is stopping the spool from fitting.(just click on the image a couple of times to zoom)

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                                                                                                                         After the ends were bent out, and old bobbin from the old 335 dropped in. 

 

 And now the generic ones also fit.                                                                  This was the one they put in. quite a gap there eh?

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I also smoothed the toe a little on the foot which was broken and hand wheeled over a few times to see how everything went..This is a 12 x 3.5 binder. 

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Nice Jimi.  It binds well.  Remember, generic Pfaff feet are cheap.

glenn

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4 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

Nice Jimi.  It binds well.  Remember, generic Pfaff feet are cheap.

glenn

Ok, Thanks Glenn.

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On 18/5/2014 at 20:49, BradR said:

Tengo un 335 h2 y utilicé el manual de ajuste para el nuevo 335G y obtuve excelentes resultados. Mi máquina se ve igual que la suya pero está pintada de color verde. Suerte con ello.

Hola cómo puedo conseguir el manual de la pfaff 335 h 2

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7 hours ago, Jorge700 said:

Hola cómo puedo conseguir el manual de la pfaff 335 h 2

Hola, se habla inglés en el foro. por eso nadie te contesta a lo mejor?? Usas el  traductor si no sabes inglés.Mandame tu email y te mando una copia, es demasiado grande para subir aquí en PDF.

Send me your email and i can send you a copy. If you use the search option you will find info on the 335 in various posts that might help you.

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