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[Hi Im Joe]

Why not indeed! Machine sewing definitely opens up some great options. However it us not peaceful and relaxing and zen like the way hand sewing is.

[xyshannen]

Great Job Joe! You did really well with those rivets. Pounding out solid rivets is as much of an art form as anything else. The only thing I would have done differently would have been to put the head of the rivets facing the outside of the bag. I see how that would be difficult, but IMO would give a more finished look. But still...bravo man, bravo.

[Hi Im Joe]

Great Job Joe! You did really well with those rivets. Pounding out solid rivets is as much of an art form as anything else. The only thing I would have done differently would have been to put the head of the rivets facing the outside of the bag. I see how that would be difficult, but IMO would give a more finished look. But still...bravo man, bravo.

Man I went back and forth on this one. And actually it wouldn't have been any harder. I attached everything before I sewed the bag together. I guess I liked the more rustic look of having the rivet burr on the outside. Also I didn't want the user to reach in and scrap their hand on the burr.

[billybopp]

For my part, I think I like the burr showing on this bag, especially since Joe did such a good job making them look smooth and even. It just adds something visually interesting to the bag. Perhaps a different bag design with more happening visually would do better with the head out.

I wonder, does anybody know if the copper rivets will oxidize to green with time? If so, how would you prevent it? Also, has anybody tried "machine turning" or some other method to give these rivets an interesting texture?

Just some thoughts ...

Bill

[Hi Im Joe]

For my part, I think I like the burr showing on this bag, especially since Joe did such a good job making them look smooth and even. It just adds something visually interesting to the bag. Perhaps a different bag design with more happening visually would do better with the head out.

I wonder, does anybody know if the copper rivets will oxidize to green with time? If so, how would you prevent it? Also, has anybody tried "machine turning" or some other method to give these rivets an interesting texture?

Just some thoughts ...

Bill

Thanks Bill. I'm sure the rivets will darken down over time. As far as turning green that I'm not sure of.

[Colt W Knight]

Thanks Bill. I'm sure the rivets will darken down over time. As far as turning green that I'm not sure of.

Yes, Copper rivets will turn green. I just had some do that.

[xyshannen]

I do see your point, I hadn't really thought about it like that.

Solid copper rivets are all I work with and from what I've found is if you don't protect the head wile pounding on them they do oxidize pretty quickly. IE, if you just place it on a piece of raw granite with nothing covering it they seem to turn green in a few weeks. But if I place a piece of tough pig skin between the rivet head and the granite or anvil they don't seem to turn green. They will still darken much like a penny does but don't actually turn green. Least that's been my experience.

[Hi Im Joe]

Yes, Copper rivets will turn green. I just had some do that.

Well then....good to know. Can you remove the green by polishing?

I do see your point, I hadn't really thought about it like that.

Solid copper rivets are all I work with and from what I've found is if you don't protect the head wile pounding on them they do oxidize pretty quickly. IE, if you just place it on a piece of raw granite with nothing covering it they seem to turn green in a few weeks. But if I place a piece of tough pig skin between the rivet head and the granite or anvil they don't seem to turn green. They will still darken much like a penny does but don't actually turn green. Least that's been my experience.

Thanks for the input that's good to know!

[Colt W Knight]

I am pretty sure those copper rivets come from the factory with a coating to keep them from tarnishing in the box. Once you cut, hammer on them, it wears the coating off leaving them subject to tarnish. Yes, you can polish off the corrosion. Something like Never Dull will take it right off. If you want to prevent the tarnish, you can top coat them with something.

[Hi Im Joe]

I am pretty sure those copper rivets come from the factory with a coating to keep them from tarnishing in the box. Once you cut, hammer on them, it wears the coating off leaving them subject to tarnish. Yes, you can polish off the corrosion. Something like Never Dull will take it right off. If you want to prevent the tarnish, you can top coat them with something.

Sweet! I guarantee when they turn green my wife will want me to do something about it!