Members Jarakoko Posted October 12, 2014 Members Report Posted October 12, 2014 Hi all, I have spend many many weeks of research for the perfect machine. We mainly work with 2 layers of 1mm leather and Juki 1541S does the job. but we are looking to add heavier leather shoes, plus rubber sole or thick leather insole in the shoe. I'm eyeing couple of Cowboy machines and Global 9204 double needle. Problem is Global is impossible to get in US. We are looking for single needle and double needle post bed machine, I think that is the best for us. huge plus is roller foot. I attached some pic as of what I'm thinking of doing. I really appreciate any input and recommendation. Jara Quote
Members Colt W Knight Posted October 12, 2014 Members Report Posted October 12, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_34Y8nkI7c Quote
Members Darren Brosowski Posted October 12, 2014 Members Report Posted October 12, 2014 Lots of machines are used in shoe making. The Singer 17/18 class (Seiko TE/TF) are very handy. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted October 12, 2014 Members Report Posted October 12, 2014 But the Singer 17/18 have extremely small bobbins and I´m not sure if they can handle anything larger that 138 thread. I think a roller foot machine with post bed or cylinder is a good choice for these tiny shoes. Get in touch with Toledo Sewing Machines if you want a Cowboy machine. They also have used machines and maybe the used ones will meet your requirements and they often can save you some $$$. Toledo Sewing has banner on top of this page. I like the shoes with fur very much - really cool shoes!!! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 12, 2014 Moderator Report Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) I use my Cowboy CB4500 sometimes to re-sew leather soles and sometimes thick neoprene soles onto biker and cowboy boots and even dress shoes. It depends on how wide the flange is on the top sole. If one is making shoes from scratch, one could have the soles protruding out about 3/8 inch from the body, providing plenty of room for a right toe presser foot to make contact with the outside of the sole. In my case, I got a special paddle shaped right toe foot for my CB4500, from Bob Kovar (Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines). It has a paddle on the front the wraps around to completely cover the sewing path and inside foot. After sewing, one could trim the soles on a 3 in 1 machine. Edited October 12, 2014 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members jmakin2 Posted October 13, 2014 Members Report Posted October 13, 2014 I am in the market of doing the same thing, I'm doing it on sneakers. I was lookinhpg into the tech 810 2-2, or the consew 289rb. Google doesn't help that much. Id avise calling different sewing machine distributors to find exactly what you want. Quote
Members Jarakoko Posted October 16, 2014 Author Members Report Posted October 16, 2014 Thank you all for the help, I almost decided for Techsew 5100SE, still thinking about that one or if 4100 would be enough, but I like the flat bed option. I'm only scared it will mark our soles. Quote
Techsew Ron Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 Thank you all for the help, I almost decided for Techsew 5100SE, still thinking about that one or if 4100 would be enough, but I like the flat bed option. I'm only scared it will mark our soles. The Techsew 5100-SE or 4100 come with our chrome plated specialty presser foot set and will not mark leather. Either machine will be good for leather soles. Ron Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
Members jmakin2 Posted October 16, 2014 Members Report Posted October 16, 2014 Ron, how's the 810-2. A friend of mine bought his a few months back and is having trouble with his. Quote
Techsew Ron Posted October 17, 2014 Report Posted October 17, 2014 Ron, how's the 810-2. A friend of mine bought his a few months back and is having trouble with his. The 810 and 810-2 are really nice machines, we sell a lot of these to shoe and boot makers. Take a look at the 830 as well, it has a top and bottom feed for sewing thicker materials. I can recall one person who had issues with his 810-2 recently, I think he jammed it and tried to repair it by himself without contacting our tech support. We're having him ship it back and repairing it for him free of charge. Ron Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
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