Evo160K Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 Recently I purchased a 45K25 which was built in 1940. It wasn't sewing, but with the help of some fine people here on LW it was sewing well. Here's a sample in 9 0z veg tanned showing the range of stitch lengths. I say "was sewing" because after feeling pretty good about the sample, I tried to see if it would sew 12 mm like the literature says. I must have done something wrong! The #25 needle deflected, hit the needle plate, broke itself and the plate, and now it's not feeding! Here are a couple of short videos showing the problem. Please excuse the orientation, I know less about computers than I do about sewing machines, and that's not much. Video of 45K25 Feed Dog Problem IMG_3032.MOV Video of 45K25 Feed Dog Problem (without foot) IMG_3030.MOV I suspect something must have been shoved out of time. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to repair this problem, or best yet, provide a copy of the service manual. I will be happy to cover the costs. I've looked extensively and can't find a manual on any of the 45K's. Thank you very much. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted November 18, 2014 Members Report Posted November 18, 2014 Sorry but the videos are a bit short. But when you say the needle hit plate it is most likely the needle bar that needs an adjustment. The needle bar has 2 screws on a clamp, you have to loosen both and adjust the needle bar the way that the hook tip meets the needle scarf about 2.5mm above the needle eye within the needle scarf. But first check if the needle meets the hook as mentioned and them make an adjustment. I can´t help very much with the feeding as I never worked on a 45K cylinder machine. I also have never seen a 45K service manual. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted November 18, 2014 Members Report Posted November 18, 2014 BTW - never let the feed dog rub on your presser foot. Either lift the foot or put some fabric or leather between them otherwise both will wear off and parts are expensive. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members shoepatcher Posted November 18, 2014 Members Report Posted November 18, 2014 Recently I purchased a 45K25 which was built in 1940. It wasn't sewing, but with the help of some fine people here on LW it was sewing well. Here's a sample in 9 0z veg tanned showing the range of stitch lengths. Singer 45K25 sewing sample IMG_3035.JPG I say "was sewing" because after feeling pretty good about the sample, I tried to see if it would sew 12 mm like the literature says. I must have done something wrong! The #25 needle deflected, hit the needle plate, broke itself and the plate, and now it's not feeding! Here are a couple of short videos showing the problem. Please excuse the orientation, I know less about computers than I do about sewing machines, and that's not much. Video of 45K25 Feed Dog Problem IMG_3032.MOV Video of 45K25 Feed Dog Problem (without foot) IMG_3030.MOV I suspect something must have been shoved out of time. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to repair this problem, or best yet, provide a copy of the service manual. I will be happy to cover the costs. I've looked extensively and can't find a manual on any of the 45K's. Thank you very much. Al, To me it looks like the feed dog is not moving mean it is set to a very small stitch. Move the stitch length to it's largest stitch and lets see what it does. glenn Quote
Members jimi Posted November 19, 2014 Members Report Posted November 19, 2014 Hey Evo, so did you change the needle plate?? could you get a closer picture taken of your needle plate? it should not move up and down with the feed dog? maybe your feed dog is set too high. although when raised to its highest it should not touch your plate anyway. i would say it is a combination between the short stitch length and the high feed dog. this happened on a singer 18-2 of mine and the problem was the needle plate was worn down on one side and the feed dogs teeth were also worn and could not be lowered so the material kept coming back. Quote
Evo160K Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Shoepatcher, Jimi, Turns out the stitch length lever was set wrong, and the needle plate was bent and hitting the feed dog. Good catch for both of you. Thank you, thank you very much. I am trying to source a new plate and feed dog, any thoughts on where I should look? In the meantime I've straightened the plate, so I can limp by.. Would you mind explaining what a properly adjusted feed dog should look like with respect to the plate at the upper and lower limit, and where the presser foot and feed dog should be set? I'm trying to understand the relationship of the three pieces to get the correct feed. At this point, without documentation nor experience, I'm guessing. Thank you very much. Edited November 19, 2014 by Evo160K Quote
Evo160K Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Posted November 19, 2014 Jimi, Good pictures, they help tremendously. Thank you. When the feed dog is totally up and the foot is totally down, how much space should there be between them? The metal on your machine looks new, how do you get them to look so bright? Thanks again Jimi. Quote
Members jimi Posted November 19, 2014 Members Report Posted November 19, 2014 Looks like about 3mm Quote
Members jimi Posted November 19, 2014 Members Report Posted November 19, 2014 Sorry i misunderstood that one?? when i let the foot down it rests on the feed dog Quote
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