Members RoosterShooter Posted November 24, 2014 Members Report Posted November 24, 2014 OK. To make a long story short .... I kept my Tippmann Boss for a Back-Up in case my Primary went down so that I wouldn't be entirely in the dark. My Juki is in the shop being serviced and cleaned. NOW, I'm DOWN and have NO machine until my other comes back from the shop! On my 6th piece today my Boss started doing THIS again!!! This is the same reason I had a replacement machine sent to me in the first place. This machine has less than 3 hours on it, and it is pulling odd stitches through to the back side. On some stitches it will run right, but then it starts acting up again. There is no rhyme or reason to when it does this. It could be the 10th stictch or the 50th. See photo below .... what causes this? I'm sick and tired of messing with this machine. I have ZERO confidence in it, and grit my teeth anytime I have to rely on it! Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted November 24, 2014 Contributing Member Report Posted November 24, 2014 Looks like a short stroke on the lever....not getting all the way to the stops on the 'up' cycle. Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members RoosterShooter Posted November 24, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 24, 2014 Negative... I'm adimant about making a complete stroke up and down while hitting the stops. I'm a hobby ammo reloader, so I know the importance of a comlete handle stroke. Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted November 24, 2014 Contributing Member Report Posted November 24, 2014 have you checked the tension of the nut that holds the take up lever in place? Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members catskin Posted November 24, 2014 Members Report Posted November 24, 2014 Sounds to me like it could be the thread tension is not even ( not feeding smoothly ) that it binds someplace or slips to easily for a stitch once in a while. It can be hard to find since it does not happen at a regular time. Recheck everything that the thread touches. Make certain it never binds as it comes of the spool. Quote
Members Colt W Knight Posted November 25, 2014 Members Report Posted November 25, 2014 Keeping the Boss after the Juki gets back? Quote
Members RoosterShooter Posted November 25, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 25, 2014 Keeping the Boss after the Juki gets back? Probably not Colt ... why? Are you in the market? Quote
Members RoosterShooter Posted November 25, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Could it be something as simple as a thread issue? I talked to a buddy tonight,and he uses only A&E 277 Nylon Thread. He said he had a similar issue with 'Service' Brand thread and his boss! Something about the inconsistency in the wind and thread stiffness. He said some of the thread would be limp as a noodle, and a foot down the spool it would be stiff as monofilament. Your thoughts? Edited November 25, 2014 by RoosterShooter Quote
Members Colt W Knight Posted November 25, 2014 Members Report Posted November 25, 2014 Probably not Colt ... why? Are you in the market? Nope. I was just curious if you were going to stick with the Boss. When I started researching leather sewing machines, I ruled out the Boss because there seams to be a plethora of stories just like yours out there about how finicky the machines can be. Quote
Members RoosterShooter Posted November 25, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Yeah. I'm going to Axe this one after my other machine comes back. I'll probably send it back to Tippmann for an exchange and sell the one they send back to me. I've talked to a couple of knowledgable sewing machine people on the phone and they all mention that the Boss isn't the machine that it used to be. From what I gather they switched raw materials over the years, and their machines haven't been the same since. They have definitely made some bad business decisions since switching from the Cast Iron Boss of the old days. A higher profit drive has caused them to lose customers and given them a bad name. If they would have just stayed with what worked they might have been ok. At this point I'm seriously wondering if they are going to just do away with their sewing machine side of things and stick with their paintball gun line. However, even that is a dying market! Edited November 25, 2014 by RoosterShooter Quote
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