European Stitching Chisel From Goodsjapan

[YinTx]

Nigel,

Thanks for all the reviewing work on your videos. Very useful as I am trying to improve my stitching as you might note from my other postings, and all I currently have is a Craftool 2.5mm with 6 tines and a 1 tine (agree with you, one tine is pretty useless, not to mention it makes an entirely different sized mark/hole despite the size marking). I noted on Goods Japan's web page, that the Kyoshin Elle irons are "made for Kyoshin Elle." This sounds to me like made by someone else, somewhere else, and sold by Goods Japan with Kyoshin Elle's name on them (perhaps made in China?). Which makes me question all the other stuff they have. Was there any indication on the packaging to say where they were actually manufactured? And in their correspondence did they ever indicate they might improve the rigidity of the tines?

YinTx

[Dangerous Beans]

Unfortunately YinTx the text on the back of the packet and the leaflet inside is in Japanese and it just has Kyoshin Elle at the top of the packet and Kyoshin Elle & Co Ltd. on the top of the leaflet.
From the appearance they look like they are made by Kyoshin Elle and Simon from Goods Japan has said no different.

Nigel

[Oldtoolsniper]

Here is the packaging and instruction sheet as shipped from goods Japan. The back of the sheet is blank.

[YinTx]

Found this on the 'net.

makes one wonder.

I didn't know Blanchards had that rough a finish on them. But I've never owned a set, maybe someone that has some can comment.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&u=http://www.leathercraft.cn//%3Fproduct-17686.html&usg=ALkJrhiul0hgBymZLW0YJCwKamSKsz2C-g

YinTx

[Matt T]

Yes, the Blanchards are not a polished finish. The picture of the rusted irons is the result of neglecting to take care of the tools.

[Oldtoolsniper]

The Blanchards will rust if not taken care of, most any cutting instrument will suffer the same fate if not taken care of..

Some collectors call it "Patina" and it sells for more money that way, to me it's just rust.

Here are my Blanchards as shipped to me. I keep them waxed because they will rust.

The edge that does the cutting is sharp and they don't stick in the leather but then I don't drive them through the leather either. As for the rest of the tool being polished to a mirror finish it is not. I'm not sure what the purpose other than how the tool looks polishing the entire thing would serve. It would bring the cost up and they are already costly enough.

The cost will keep most folks diligent about taking care of them..

Edited February 24, 2015 by Oldtoolsniper

[YinTx]

I guess the main part I was wondering about was the fact that the pricking irons in the photos from my post are made in China, and appear to be an exact replica of the Blanchards, minus the branding mark. I think they are claiming theirs will not rust as the Blanchards do. Thought perhaps this was the source/manufacturer for the Kyoshin Elle irons, as I got to this (Chinese) web page by following links on GoodsJapan's web site.

YinTx

[vicroll91]

I'm going to venture a guess and say that the KE pricking irons are not actually polished but rather, chromed. The finish is much too uniform for me to believe it was polished on a wheel.

Not to mention a full polish on the tool is pointless. I prefer the raw steel of a dixon to aid my grip of the tool.

[YinTx]

Mr. Armitage,

First off, I must say thank you for all your sharing. Without it I can confidently say my hand stitching would still be atrocious. By studying your videos and the tutorials and information on this site, I can at least show my work without complete embarrassment.

Regarding your Post #20, I believe JanC was referring to these irons in the attached photo that are sold on ebay. They are listed as European style, and can be had for $35-$75 for the entire set. There are also some listed as "French Angled" chisels that I have ordered as well to see how they work. These in the photo make a very fine mark, less than 2mm in length, and I have been able to stitch nicely with Fil Au Chinois and 0.6mm Tiger thread with them. I have some Osbornes, which as you note make a massive hole, and are pretty useless for a thread as small as Fil Au Chinois. Since I'm just a newbie having only been stitching since January, it would be interesting to see what a more seasoned master thinks of these tools from China. I believe they are missing from your review videos, but looks like I see a set on your log at the end of the last review of the Kyoshin Elle irons.

Photo: Hermann Oak 7/8 oz leather, 0.6mm Tiger Thread Samsung Phone slip case, "European Style" stitching irons, 3mm (a little over 8 SPI). First photo after marking, gallery photos after stitching, edge, front and back.

one pic here, the rest in my Gallery…

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?app=gallery&album=2661

YinTx

Edited April 16, 2015 by YinTx

[alexitbe]

On 16.4.2015 at 4:23 AM, YinTx said:

Mr. Armitage,

First off, I must say thank you for all your sharing. Without it I can confidently say my hand stitching would still be atrocious. By studying your videos and the tutorials and information on this site, I can at least show my work without complete embarrassment.

Regarding your Post #20, I believe JanC was referring to these irons in the attached photo that are sold on ebay. They are listed as European style, and can be had for $35-$75 for the entire set. There are also some listed as "French Angled" chisels that I have ordered as well to see how they work. These in the photo make a very fine mark, less than 2mm in length, and I have been able to stitch nicely with Fil Au Chinois and 0.6mm Tiger thread with them. I have some Osbornes, which as you note make a massive hole, and are pretty useless for a thread as small as Fil Au Chinois. Since I'm just a newbie having only been stitching since January, it would be interesting to see what a more seasoned master thinks of these tools from China. I believe they are missing from your review videos, but looks like I see a set on your log at the end of the last review of the Kyoshin Elle irons.

 

Photo: Hermann Oak 7/8 oz leather, 0.6mm Tiger Thread Samsung Phone slip case, "European Style" stitching irons, 3mm (a little over 8 SPI). First photo after marking, gallery photos after stitching, edge, front and back.

one pic here, the rest in my Gallery…

 

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?app=gallery&album=2661

 

 

YinTx

Hello YinTx,

 

You certainly do some neat and careful work, which is a joy to look at.  I have never seen such polished tools, and I guess they help you.  Can you remember where you bought them from?

 

Cheers

Alex