jimi Report post Posted May 30, 2018 Thanks for the pictures, nice to see the old machines. did you get anymore feet with the machine or does it have just the one? looks like it is all pretty much their. is the top tension unit and the disk opener present?. as you see in the parts manual this came with the feet which have the two prongs or teeth on the toe, this was to mach up with the stitch length. as this was the way it fed the leather through you would have changed feet for different stitch lengths, this way leaving no visible marks on the top side. at least if you need a new needle plate you could do one up easily. but i can´t see the stitching on the collar?? in the picture above it seems like the thread is not resting on the post above the wheel tension unit?? strange?? regards jimi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 30, 2018 here is another link talking about the 45k52. maybe you saw this one already?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singer45k Report post Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) here's a better pic showing tension on 277 thread .. yes top tension disc are there. you can really tell I'm still figuring out this machine. rear paw with tiny teeth has to be aligned with needle or it will make marks. left shows paw marks .. right has no marks after paw is aligned to needle Edited May 30, 2018 by singer45k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 30, 2018 sorry buddy, but your pictures are too far away to see anything. so did it come with one foot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singer45k Report post Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) my camera is not too good at taking closeups .. this pic was taken through a lighted magnifier hopefully you can see tracks on leather made when paw is not in alignment with needle. unfortunately I've only got one foot. any source for other sizes? Edited May 30, 2018 by singer45k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singer45k Report post Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/28/2018 at 6:42 PM, jimi said: Hi There, here is the parts book for your machine. could you send some pictures of your 45k52. regards jimi. thanks for all your hard work posting photos of actual source materials. looked at diagram of 45k 53? not realizing the photos of 45k 52 parts book was on bottom of page Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 31, 2018 Yeah, i can see that one , thanks. in the parts list 91092-91102 there are the different sizes that was available and probably in those days you could ask them to make you one up for a specific job. but as these machines are so old, if it did not come with your machine then it will be pretty hard to find these feet. that is one thing overlooked with these older machines. just for the normal feet for the 45k21 etc. it is very hard to find original parts like feet needle plates. and when it comes to accessories like binders etc.. then even more difficult. if you look at the parts list for the 45k89 etc.. you will find an array of accessories which were available but seem to be non existent when you ask people about there machines and what came with them. best thing would be to make them up yourself or get a friend to mill some. they do not seem all that complex to make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 31, 2018 your welcome, yes sometimes i overlook things in the posts too..haha. your machine would have been probably furnished with a wax deposit for the thread, that is why i asked if the top tension assembly was present as this was mounted on the wax deposit. also the front foot looks to be different from the ones furnished with these machines but then again i could be wrong. is there any numbers or simanco on it?? as long as it works that is the point. here is a picture of one similar to yours. as you can see the front foot is different. i am not 100% sure but it looks as if it might have been used for setting the stitch under the surface also?? as it is in front of the needle. we will have to wait until an original turns up to find out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) click on the image 2-3 times to enlarge. you can see these at the beginning of this post. Edited May 31, 2018 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singer45k Report post Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) tool nut here with a milling machine and lathe but with marginal machining skills. now that I know what optional feet looks like, it shouldn't be a problem to make one. too bad volume involved would probably never justify production? what I'm finding out is if paw is aligned with needle .. no marks are made even if paw misses prior needle hole. paw simply hits top of thread for top feed with out leaving marks .. still in discovery mode but no marks after changing stitch lengths if paw stay in alignment with needle. Edited May 31, 2018 by singer45k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted May 31, 2018 Singer45K, If you're planning to make 45K feet and want to do a couple extras, would you please let me know? I've been trying to find them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted May 31, 2018 Now that was lucky.. haha a tool nut with a mill and lathe. you could do wonders with that lot in your workshop. 1 hour ago, singer45k said: what I'm finding out is if paw is aligned with needle .. no marks are made even if paw misses prior needle hole. that is great that there are no marks left by the foot. as this is the goal with leather. i imagine if it does not fit in the hole and pulls on the thread instead you probably risk getting slipping at one point and possibly some stitches longer than others?? 17 minutes ago, Evo160K said: If you're planning to make 45K feet and want to do a couple extras, would you please let me know? I've been trying to find them. Hey Al how´s things.. i haven´t forgot about the pictures.. will send them tomorrow and you can have a laugh at my stitching hehehe.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted May 31, 2018 Hi Jimi, can't complain, we're doing okay here, thank you. Looking forward to the pics, not to worry, I would never laugh at you. All the best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beneath The Stars Report post Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Hi everyone....been years since i last came on but wanted to say thanks to everyone for this thread....Jimi in particular for the 45k manual pics.... i now own about 120 singers but yesterday i took delivery of 'The Beast'....and straightaway came online looking for info and here i ended up.... thanks again....heres pic! regards! sonni https://www.facebook.com/Beneaththestars.leathercraft Edited November 18, 2019 by Beneath The Stars Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted November 18, 2019 Hi sonni, There is an update here which i will try and upload to the original, it is for the cylinder bed type. Thanks for the picture of your 45k. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Here is another hard to find manual for the 45k Cylinder type class, It is in another thread of its own but seems it might be better off here in this one with the flat bed type. Edited November 18, 2019 by jimi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beneath The Stars Report post Posted November 18, 2019 Hi Dude....youre a star....thankyou very much....could i ask a favour please?....would you be able to email me these pics?....i would then be able to print them out for myself at a better quality.....hard to explain but for some reason i cant ctrl/printscreen into adobe elements....just into my ancient jasc paintshop which will only save them at low res..... regards! s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert51 Report post Posted November 18, 2019 Thank you Jimi, I found these very interesting reading. sonni , I was going to make the pictures into a PDF, but the Pictures need to be resized as they appear to be of different sizes and I don't have the time at the moment to re-size them to the same size. Bert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 11:55 PM, Bert51 said: Thank you Jimi, I found these very interesting reading. Your welcome Bert, if you need them sent by email let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert51 Report post Posted November 20, 2019 Thank you Jimi, but I borrowed the pictures for your posting and found the to differ a bit, I will need to reduce their size so I can get the PDF small enough to post here. I'm working on a couple laptops at the moment, hopefully I will have time at the weekend to play with them. Bert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LomaeArts Report post Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/8/2015 at 11:37 PM, jimi said: 45k53.pdf 45Kmanual.pdf Jimi, A thousand thanks for these manual. I found my 45K tread was set up wrong, one of the thread holders was back to front and the thread hold above the needle is missing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimi Report post Posted February 15, 2020 No problems mate and welcome to the forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LomaeArts Report post Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Any Autralian crew wanting a paper copy of the 45K21 manual above PM me a postal address and I will send one. This version below, the cover is printed in satain 170gms and the body in 80gms bond paper and then trimed dow to approximately 135x 195mm. I tried cleaning the images back to Grey scale but found too much details was lost in the process. 45K21 Manual all Compact.pdf Edited February 16, 2020 by LomaeArts PDF added Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
