chapelstone Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I am hand stitching my first belt. I did fine with the diamond punch, doing fine with the awl, and the needles are even working good. My question is; it is getting tough to pull the needle through the hole. Is there any kind of rubber covers that will go over the finger tips to give me a better grip. It would not take much. I wiggle the awl to make the holes bigger but I don't want to make it much bigger. I just need a little help pulling the needle through and I am tired of using pliers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Dogg Report post Posted February 12, 2015 What size needle and awl are you using, chapelstone? Normally, the awl will make a big enough hole for the needle and thread, without using pliers. Also, the hole will shrink a bit once you're done sewing, so I wouldn't worry too much about it being too large. I use size 000 needles (been told by a few people they are too large, but that's what works for me) and have no problem pulling them through with my bare fingers even on the return stitching at the end of the seam. It might take a while to develop some strength in your fingers if you've never done this before, too. Black Dogg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avgvstvs Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I use nitrile palm coated gloves. They are available at hardware stores (and pretty cheap, below the $5 mark). I look for a slick palm surface, with not too thick of a coating and get them real tight fitting. I attached pictures of an unsured pair I have to give you an idea of what I'm talking about. One thing though, at first I kind of struggled with rotating the awl in hand because of the extra grip. Other than that I didn't notice any loss in dexterity using them while sewing and am still working through my first pair (had them for a little less than a year). This is what has worked best for me so far but I'm curious to hear what suggestions others might have. Hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Just some plain disposable nitrile gloves (the blue ones) will improve your grip. I don't use 'leather needles', either. i punch the hole with an awl, then run the needles through. It's okay if you need to wallow the hole a little to get the needle through- that just means that the hole is going to close up nice and tight around the stitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazedLemming Report post Posted February 13, 2015 I've found that I fight with the needle a LOT less if I'm careful how it's oriented to the awl hole. You can feel the orientation of the eye & thread with your fingers, and spinning the needle to line up better becomes automatic after a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chapelstone Report post Posted February 13, 2015 Thanks, these are all good suggestions. I will give them a try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrymac Report post Posted February 13, 2015 Get a pair of smooth jaw pliers, I use them all the time. When you get to the point you have to do some backstitching, pliers are the only way I can get the thread pulled. Watch some of Nigel Armitage's videos, he uses pliers extensively. Hope this helps, Terry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snubbyfan Report post Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) I've got a degenerative peripheral motor nerve condition that causes weakness mainly in my right hand and wrist but also affects my left hand. I've found a technique that works for me when hand stitching holsters, belts and other stuff. I've got a video on leather stitching on my YouTube Channel showing how I go about it. Edited February 13, 2015 by snubbyfan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electrathon Report post Posted February 13, 2015 I pull the needles with pliers all the time. Get tiny, smooth jw needle nose at the craft store. I can hold them in the palm of my hand while I am working. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverwingit Report post Posted March 22, 2015 Thanks to a suggestion from forum member Chuck Burrows (Wild Rose Trading Co.) I use secretary's rubber finger tips found at any office supply store. They work great to protect fingers and provide a positive grip on the needles. Michelle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feraud Report post Posted March 22, 2015 I too find a small pair of smooth jawed pliers helpful with snug needles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slipangle Report post Posted March 29, 2015 I use a small pair of smooth-jawed pliers too. When I have to. But I wrap my thumb, index and middle finger tips in this stuff. It's tacky, stretches and sticks to itself, and helps me grab the needle. Also protects the fingers. It is similar to the medical stuff in the pharmacy, but some is better than others. Look for the thick, very crinkly stuff. The thinner stuff doesn't work as well. http://www.flexx-rap.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BondoBobCustomSaddles Report post Posted March 29, 2015 Snubby, did you say you were a degenerate? Me too LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BondoBobCustomSaddles Report post Posted March 29, 2015 I don't do much hand stitching any more, however; I still do some on certain parts of saddles, and; what works for me is, I get some bee's wax on my hands, especially on my "pulling fingers", that helps me get a grip on things. Like Snubby I am degenerated too. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snubbyfan Report post Posted March 29, 2015 Snubby, did you say you were a degenerate? Me too LOL This forum needs a "like" button. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramrod Report post Posted April 14, 2015 i use beeswak like bondobob. just a pinch and it will make your fingers real tacky. ] you can also look into using finger cots - those rubber finger thingies that watchmakers use to assemble watches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robbied Report post Posted April 29, 2015 I to am a wax subscriber, a little off the thread and the grip on the needles is much better. Pliers definitely save the day when backstitching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boriqua Report post Posted May 18, 2015 The part that is usually the sticking point is the fold in the thread at the eye of the needle. If you shave down your thread like suggested in the Stohlmann Hand stitching book it makes life alot easier. I use a Sz 0 harness needles. Listen to what Crazedlemming wrote too. I have been trying to ingrain this in my movement and it makes a huge difference. Lastly if you really need a little extra uumph like when sewing through really thick leather the Rubber finger tips work great and I paid 3 bucks for a box of 12 at officemax. I place one on the right thumb when I sew up a sheath with multiple layers and it works great. Sewing up a holster with 2 layers of 8-9 oz though I go naked and so long as I shave the thread I am good to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites