Directions For Timing A Singer 45K25

[Darren Brosowski]

An oscillating shuttle machine as simple as the 45k is a great place to start learning.

If you can rip one apart and get it together then the next step is a 441

[amuckart]

uuuuh - looks nice and clean inside - SWEEEET!!!

If you don´t mind please post some pictures of your machine.

Truth is it hasn't been used since I put it back together again I need to build a table for it and I got sick and couldn't work on any for a couple of years.I'll post pictures of it once I've finished putting the decals on and have somewhere to put it. At the moment it's sitting next to my computer table.

One day I hope to find an original treadle stand for it that I can afford.

[BigMatt]

This thread needs to be a sticky.

If nobody does by then, I will look in my GA-5 tonight to see if it has the marks.

[Evo160K]

Amuckart,

Like you, I hope to find an original treadle stand one day that I can afford. That's the one piece that's been evading me.

Would you know the Singer part number for the complete treadle stand? I think that part number would help the search. Thanks a lot.

Btw I checked my timing using the instructions and it seems to be real close. I may lower the needlebar a hair to let the hook enter the loop more toward the top rather than toward the bottom as it is now. Curious to see what that will do. Thanks again.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Evo160K

[amuckart]

Amuckart,

Would you know the Singer part number for the complete treadle stand? I think that part number would help the search. Thanks a lot.

I don't, sorry. I've only ever seen one and it was too far away for me to realistically get hold of.

I'm glad you're getting ahead with timing your machine.

Have fun.

[Darren Brosowski]

The GA5 owes more to the the ADLER 4 class than the 45k but they are very close.

This thread needs to be a sticky.

If nobody does by then, I will look in my GA-5 tonight to see if it has the marks.

[Evo160K]

Amuckart,

It just dawned on me, I was watching an internet YouTube video recently that you made. You were demonstrating the shuttle movement in a 45K25. You said the machine had a couple of millemeters movement in each direction and referred to it as slop.

Would you mind explaining what the proper movement should be in the machine, what problems excessive movement causes and what if anything should be done to correct excessive movement? My 25K has 0.1 mm movement in each direction, I have no idea if that's okay or too tight.

Thank you Amuckart.

[jimi]

Hi Al, just saw this post?,the table and stand number is in the description of the 45k69 in the post of the Original singer 45k instruction manual. hope you guys find one.

[Evo160K]

Hi Jimi,

Thanks for lead to the part numbers. Now I know what to ask for when I talk to people. Like most other 45K parts, they're next to impossible to find in this country.

Thanks again Jimi.

Regards,

[Stewey]

For what it's worth, I have a 45k-67 with a jump foot, and the removable rectangular base that converts it from a cylinder arm, to a flat base.
Also have a 45k-72 in which the presser foot bar jumps up in each cycle, as if it's meant to have the jump foot, but it came with just a roller foot a bit under 1/8" wide, though I've been able to get a spoon foot, and a wider roller foot for it.

The feed dogs on one of them had been worn to smithereens, and the plate had been broken where misaligned needles or leather over the years has walloped the hole. (I'm gguessing someone had tried sewing horse rugs, and the misalignment comes when climbing up a thick double seam) The plate and needle hole had been brazed back on a few times. I was lucky to pick up another plate and a few bobbins from an old Singer service shop, before it shut down 10 years ago.
The fellow there kindly photocopied the parts book for that series (45k 67 to 45k 72) for me, though he charged me an arm and a leg for it too!

I don't have much in the way of spares that are spare though.

We have clydesdale horses, and I've made our own harness over the years - using these and also hand sewing, plus using a big old unbranded Adler/Wertheim with a sideways moving shuttle. I use a chopped down Pearson needle for that.
(Also have a 29k13 that gets a fair bit of use, a Pederson sole stitcher, and a few other mostly dead middle-sized Singers.)

Thanks for the thread. I had three days of 'fun' (sarcasm) 28 years ago when I bought the 45k 72, as I knew nothing about them, and the timing was out - it would not sew anything, though I was promised it worked.
I just about tore my hair out trynig to figure the problem-eventually I found a loose grub screw underneath that prevented the shuttle from rotating far enough round at the right time to grab the loop of thread. Once I seated that, it's been fine!