Parts For A Singer 45K69

[simran]

This is a sole stitcher made by Singer years ago. It is on a treadle stand and works good; as good as one of these works anyway. They weren't much of a sole stitcher really; nothing like a Landis anyway. Worked alright for repair work I suppose.

I have ground out the adjustment for the stitch length so it makes a much longer stitch now. What I'm wondering is if I can change the feed dogs and foot so it can be used like a regular cylinder arm.

Thanks Guys

[amuckart]

I have huge machine envy right now! I really want to get hold of an original treadle stand for my 45k.

Can you share more detailed photos of the feet and feed dogs on the machine at the moment?

Thanks.

[Evo160K]

Simran,

That's one fine looking machine and treadle stand you have there!

From a novice who's done some research finding parts to restore a 45K25 cylinder arm machine, I can offer the following:

The Feed Dog Carrier, part number 91160, in the K69 and K25 are identical. That tells me the K25 feed dogs (and others in that series) will fit in your machine. Also, the 91163 Feed Rock shaft is used in both machines. Whether the K25 feed dogs (and others in that series) will line up with your presser foot and feed material properly is another question, others may know. Since the needle plate part numbers are different, the K25 are curved, and the K69 appear to be flat, I suspect you will need to fabricate a needle plate. That's not difficult though, I did a curved one recently.

You'll find more information in the reference sources I used:

http://dixiesewingmachine.tzo.com/MANUALS/SINGERPARTS2/45K68,K69,K71.pdf

http://dixiesewingmachine.tzo.com/MANUALS/SINGERPARTS2/45K21,%2045K25,%2045K63,%20&%2045K78.pdf

Simran, if you ever decide to part with your machine and stand, please let me know. I would be very pleased to have it or even just the stand to go with the K25 I'm restoring.

Best of luck with the project.

[Constabulary]

It´s so nice to see that there are still a bunch of "cast iron" lovers out there

Simran - in case your machine has the same presser foot bar like the 45K25 (for instance), then you could use the presser feet of the modern GA5-1 sewing machines or Cowboy 2500 from Toledo Sewing Machines

Could you post a picture of the bobbin winder? Looks interesting....

[Geneva]

Amuckart

The stand for the 29-4 will work to mount your 45 on. You will need to fix a couple of new holes in order to mount it.

Have fun.

[Evo160K]

Constabulary, Simran

The part numbers for the K69 and K25 presser foot bars are the same. I believe the two machines feed differently though, so the presser feet are different.

For what it's worth, the shuttle race part numbers are the same also, 91451. The shuttles are different however as are the shuttle driver and feed raising cam.

I'm guessing the "jumping mechanism or gripping mechanism, whatever it's called" could be taken off the K69, the K25 type foot used with the K25 feed dog, and a proper fitting needle plate fabricated as necessary. Of course the shuttle driver feed raising cam would have to cooperate.

Simran, you might pop a K25 feed dog in your machine and see how things look. To change out your shuttle driver feed raising cam, shuttle and what ever else is required to convert to a K25 type, might cost more than it's worth. Recall I'm a novice talking, so check everything I've said.

Edited March 30, 2015 by Evo160K

[Darren Brosowski]

Not sure where you got the idea that this is a sole stitcher. Official Singer description is here:

http://www.parts.singerco.com/IPpartCharts/45K56_89.pdf

[Darren Brosowski]

I have stock of shuttles, needle bars, needle clamps, feed dogs, roller feet, shuttle races and a lot of other 45k parts.

[Constabulary]

Not sure where you got the idea that this is a sole stitcher. Official Singer description is here:

http://www.parts.singerco.com/IPpartCharts/45K56_89.pdf

Wrong description Darren, the 45K69 is a sole stitcher machine!

We have compiled a list of subclass descriptions here:

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=61619&p=397944

[simran]

OK, I thought there was no interest in this old machine as I wasn't getting any responses in my email.I thought I'd check back and look at the original post to see if there was a better place to post it. I didn't have email response set up I guess.

I appreciate all the responses and here are a couple photos that were either asked for or may help in my search.

This machine originally took a flat plate that was curved to the outside edge. The plate that's on it has been modified and filled in on the outer edge. The feed dogs are also curved to the outer edge and these feed dogs are original. I suppose what I need to do now is just take the feed dogs out so I can compare them to some of the ones suggested above.

Anyone want to see anything else just let me know. I can take pics. of pretty much anything.

Again thanks guys,