Members tew45 Posted December 18, 2015 Members Report Posted December 18, 2015 I have a Singer 153W101 that needs a belt. I ordered one with part #224195 at 25 and 3/8 inches long and 41 teeth. The belt seems to be approximatly 4 inches too long. I bought the belt early last year and is probably unreturnable. They advertised the belt as proper for a 153W but there is no way it will work. Can anyone help with this? Quote
Uwe Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) The Singer 153 has several sub-models and they use different timing belts. Saying a part fits a Singer 153 model isn't really enough information. You need to know which sub-model they're talking about. According to the Singer Model List, the 153W101 is the same a 153W100 but with alternating presser feet. So the 153W100 should be the right Singer 153 sub-model to choose parts from for everything except the alternating presser foot bits. The parts list reference at UniversalSewing.com has a Parts List for the Singer 153W100 which shows the timing belt as part number 235003 which runs $37 at CollegeSewing.com in the U.K. but is probably available from U.S. vendors as well: The timing belt #224195 you got is the one that goes with the Singer 153W104: Edited December 18, 2015 by Uwe Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
CowboyBob Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) They must of had the belt marked wrong.All the 153's take the same belt & I just checked a #224195 we have in stock & it's 25 3/8" & has 41 teeth.The belt they sent you is for a postbed 168,138 machine. Uwe, Id say the parts list is wrong.The one you mentioned is for the 47W & would be shorter than what he needs,it only has 38 teeth. Edited December 18, 2015 by CowboyBob Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Uwe Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 Who knows what's going on in warehouses across the country. I'm sure parts get mismarked or put in the wrong bin a lot. Without pictures of what tew45 actually has, I'm just going by information that's available online. Are the parts manual diagrams I linked to for the 153W100 and the 153W104 not correct? Because they surely show different timing belts. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Uwe Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 So, tew45, is the belt you received 25 3/8" long with 41 teeth or not? If it is the size and tooth count matches the part number you need, but it's four inches too long for your machine, then something else is wrong. Does the belt that's currently in your machine have 41 teeth or not? Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members tew45 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 18, 2015 My machine is marked with a Singer plate as a 153W101 Frame number is EW032356. The belt I received (too long) was the 224195 41 teeth and 25 3/8 long which as I stated was about 3 to 4 inches too long. My machine was a walking foot with some of the WF components removed and a wheel foot installed. A 38 tooth belt seems like it might work but that is just a guess on my part. I ran a length of wire around the pulleys and it measured 21 3/8. Quote
Uwe Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 You don't have the old belt anymore to confirm length and tooth count? Now I want to see some picture of how a walking foot machine gets converted to a wheel feed. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members tew45 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 18, 2015 The belt out of my machine was destroyed by heat (Melted). There is no way I could have measured it. It was a rubber, nylon or of a similar material. And Yes the 41 tooth was too long! I don't know why I have to get an oddball so often. Quote
Uwe Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 This just gets better with every post. Now I want to see what a machine looks like after surviving an event hot enough to melt the timing belt. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members tew45 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 18, 2015 I will try to send photos if I can figure out how! My brain is not as efficient as it once was! Quote
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