DarkHorse Report post Posted January 18, 2016 I found myself in an opportunity to purchase a used Singer 236G124 for $200. From what ive been told it only needs a motor. Its the machine and stand. What im unsure of is will it do what i want. Im looking to use it for making Leather leashes, dog collars, Sew some nylon straps, and anything else i might get into. What is this capable of doing, Thickness of leather, size of thread, and do you think its worth the price? Thanks In Advance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkHorse Report post Posted January 20, 2016 Anybody? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted January 20, 2016 I was finally able to see a picture of a 236G124. It is a roller foot post machine. Singer made these machines to sew patterns onto shoe and boot uppers. They have preset gear ratios that set the stitch length at somewhere between 12 and 32 stitches per inch. The needle system is quite short and is best used with very thin thread. The thread size the bobbin and shuttle can deal with might max out at #69 bonded thread and that requires at least a #16 needle. Depending on the preset stitch length, this needle and thread may or may not filigree the leather. A more likely safe combination would be #46 thread with a #10 needle. This would lay down a nice dash pattern on boots when sewn at about 16 to 20 stitches per inch. Are you looking for such a machine? If so, the price is good, as long as it is in good working condition. There is one for sale in my town for $350. I was interested until I learned about the fixed stitch length situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I also wanted to buy a 236 once but machine was too bad and the timing belt was broken... Anyway, the 236 I looked at had a stitch length adjuster on the left side of the bed but I guess you have to flip back the machine for adjusting the stitch length (I looked at the head only). But it probably depends on the subclass, maybe some may have a set stitch length. Edited January 20, 2016 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted January 20, 2016 I just have checked a 236 manual and found this picture: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregg From Keystone Sewing Report post Posted January 20, 2016 Here is all I have on this guy, I'm always interested when a Singer model pops up that I have never seen or heard of. Inquiring minds want to know! See attached. 236W.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TinkerTailor Report post Posted January 20, 2016 Here is all I have on this guy, I'm always interested when a Singer model pops up that I have never seen or heard of. Inquiring minds want to know! See attached. They list an "adjustable california wrapper attachment" part 259837 Does this mean it can be configured to make sushi? California rolls are yummy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregg From Keystone Sewing Report post Posted January 20, 2016 They list an "adjustable california wrapper attachment" part 259837 Does this mean it can be configured to make sushi? California rolls are yummy. The funny thing I find in some of the Singer books is that they list very specific models for very specific applications that I again, also, have never heard of. Why make a machine if there is no application for it? Singer really did set the standard, and many of these odd ball models were sold in larger quantity than many of the popular model machines today. Or, Singer would have discontinued them for lack of demand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TinkerTailor Report post Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I found a 1918 brochure for a 52w100 that was a double needle post bed for sewing dirigible balloon skins. That market died right around the hindenburg but was huge and growing. Tire sewing died with vulcanization. One leap causes whole technologies and industries to disappear. It is hard for us now to comprehend just how big the tire sewing market was in 1922... sil10-26.pdf Edited January 20, 2016 by TinkerTailor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted January 20, 2016 Here's a Singer 98-3,which is built similar to a 97 that was made for recapping tires (in 1915) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted January 20, 2016 I just have checked a 236 manual and found this picture: Holy Mackerel! I have never seen that type of stitch length changer before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted January 20, 2016 always something new to learn in the world of sewing machines Here's a Singer 98-3,which is built similar to a 97 that was made for recapping tires (in 1915) Holy smokes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkHorse Report post Posted January 20, 2016 So with this info do you think it would be able to over lap leather for a leash and sew the 2 layers together? Also how similar are the 236G and the 236W? The manual listed is for the 236W.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted January 21, 2016 Not sure if you will be pleased with the 236 they usually have quite short stitch length of approx 3 - 3.5mm. I´d test sew it before you buy it. Take your leather and thread to the seller and test it. Thats better than a thousand words. 236G is made in Germany 236W is made in the USA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkHorse Report post Posted January 23, 2016 Ok thanks for all of your info and help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
