Members LoveToLearn Posted February 18, 2016 Members Report Posted February 18, 2016 I have adjusted the screw but even at maximum tightness there is ZERO bobin tension. Is it possible that little spring got stretched when I had a tangle and was trying to pull it free? I have taken the sliding plates off and the feed dog cover and looked in there at the little spring. How can I take the bobbin case out so I can examine the status of that spring and bend it back into shape? thanks LoveToLearn Quote
Members TomG Posted February 18, 2016 Members Report Posted February 18, 2016 Why not just buy a new spring. Check with sewingmachines.com or one of the sponsors in the banners at the top of the page? Tom Quote Tom Gregory Legacy Leathercraft www.legacyleathercraft.com www.etsy.com/shop/legacyleathercraft
Members LoveToLearn Posted February 18, 2016 Author Members Report Posted February 18, 2016 Is no bobin tension a common problem in these old machines? I mean is it unheard of or, is it common that the spring gets messed up and needs to be repaced? Anybody know how that bobin case comes out? Is it just two screws on the hold down plate or is there more to it? Is timing going to be affected? Thanks LoveToLearn Quote
Members Constabulary Posted February 18, 2016 Members Report Posted February 18, 2016 Have you turned the right screw? There are 2 on the spring one for holding it (the right one) one for the tension (the left one). The 111 are old machines and the spring is a wear part like the entire hook an many other parts. Sooner or later you simply have to replace it. When you are buying a new spring I´d buy new screws too. They are tiny and when you loose em you are screwed. See attached picture Do you have a parts list and manual for your machine? If not download them. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members TinkerTailor Posted February 18, 2016 Members Report Posted February 18, 2016 Before you replace it, make sure there is no thread pieces stuck down in their from your tangle. Get the bobbin case out, and check everywhere the thread goes for stray hunks of nasty. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members LoveToLearn Posted February 18, 2016 Author Members Report Posted February 18, 2016 Have you turned the right screw? There are 2 on the spring one for holding it (the right one) one for the tension (the left one). The 111 are old machines and the spring is a wear part like the entire hook an many other parts. Sooner or later you simply have to replace it. When you are buying a new spring I´d buy new screws too. They are tiny and when you loose em you are screwed. See attached picture IMG_4233.JPG Do you have a parts list and manual for your machine? If not download them. Nice diagram. Thanks.. Do you know where the cheapest place is to get this part number? I have a parts manual. Im assuming the number is in there but where is the best/cheapest place to get a genuine singer part? Also I was wondering, is it normal for the bobin case to oscilate slightly? Thanks fellas. LoveToLearn Quote
Members Constabulary Posted February 19, 2016 Members Report Posted February 19, 2016 The days of original Singer parts are gone! If you can find original parts they are for sure a bit more expensive than after market parts. Some dealers still may have some OEM parts in stock. Try Toledo Sewing Machines or Keystone Sewing Machines. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 19, 2016 Moderator Report Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Any remaining unsold/unused (NOS) genuine Singer industrial sewing machines parts will be held by dealers who were in sewing machine business in the late 1980s or early 1990s, while Singer's industrial sewing division was still in operation. Both of the dealers listed by Constabulary meet that criteria. Edited February 19, 2016 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members LoveToLearn Posted February 19, 2016 Author Members Report Posted February 19, 2016 Guess Ill be making some calls tomorrow. Thanks for the leads guys. Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted February 22, 2016 Members Report Posted February 22, 2016 One final thing, take the old spring out and wee if it has a grove worn in by the bobbin thread. If so, discard it. If not, and you are careful, you can re-bend the spring to make it work better, i.e. make the radius on the spring smaller by bending it with your thumb and index finger. I have done this a lot over the years and it works to put tension back into the tension spring. glenn Quote
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