Okay, seriously .

[Art]

On 6/8/2016 at 9:24 AM, Thefirst said:

One thing I do like is when I need to go to sleep, Ill put on a really long drawn out video of how to do something simple and I fall asleep really easily. (no seriously, I actually do this)

You really need to get George Hurst doing an airbrushing video.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Art

[Jackmitch]

I just went through OP's site and downloaded all of the pattern templates (except holsters). I'm new and they are perfect for much needed practice. Any other sites you guys know about that provide simple to follow instructions like JLSleather?

[niniquesvk]

I watch tutorial videos from time to time and attend regular classes with old leatherworker. Obviously I learned much more from having teacher and working with him in person, than from watching videos.

But still Im very grateful for having these youtube videos available. Its always good to see how people do things, what tricks, equipment they use..

For example in one of the last Nigel Armitage videos, he mentions using simple pencil instead of awl or spatula to apply edge paint. I tried it and it really works for me too. So, leather youtubers, keep it up, I can only appreciate it.

[JLSleather]

So that pencil I've had for like 30 years is "tricks and equipment"?

Again, there may be A video worth seeing.  Actually, I did find a second one with profitable information.  Stuff I already knew, but

• I could see where someone who didn't know that could benefit.  
• it was chronological, steps in the order you would do them
• without a bunch of irrelevant talk ("hey, everybody look -I'm over here  ) and such.  
• showed the tools used - without being an advertisement. 
• when it was done, the watcher could ACTUALLY DO THAT himself (herself) 

This is no commentary on that video, since I haven't seen it.  But if there's a video telling me I can use that pencil that has been around since great grand dad, I hope it didn't take an hour to tell me that.  I'm quite aware that there are MANY places that will sell you another tool when you could have used your pencil, so if there's a guy pointing out.. 'hey- you can use yer pencil' then this is good.

I found one other day, while making dinner.  Guy gonna show how to make a holster pattern.  Naturally, if there's a better way, then show me.  Guy broke it into two parts for whatever reason, and part two plays automatically after part 1.  Part 1 about 10 minutes long... basically he chicken-scratches some marker on a piece of paper.  Part 2 starts.... he points out that in part 1 that was wrong so I want to show you that ....   Now, good for him if he can admit he was wrong.  MY point is,.. why not just delete the 'wrong' video?

And the next one... plays right behind those, I guess u-tube lumped 'subject matter"(?).  There's no discussion- no words at all.  Some music plays in the background while a pair of pudgy hands make marks on a sheet of paper, which I guess is supposed to be a paper pattern for a holster.

Nah... I like to see people actually DOING leather work - not watching tv about it.  Guess I'll stick to the pdf files and still pics   Can't say I don't keep a finger on the line, just in case something changes about them videos ...

 

 

Edited June 15, 2016 by JLSleather

[niniquesvk]

13 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

So that pencil I've had for like 30 years is "tricks and equipment"?

Again, there may be A video worth seeing.  Actually, I did find a second one with profitable information.  Stuff I already knew, but

• I could see where someone who didn't know that could benefit.  
• it was chronological, steps in the order you would do them
• without a bunch of irrelevant talk ("hey, everybody look -I'm over here  ) and such.  
• showed the tools used - without being an advertisement. 
• when it was done, the watcher could ACTUALLY DO THAT himself (herself) 

This is no commentary on that video, since I haven't seen it.  But if there's a video telling me I can use that pencil that has been around since great grand dad, I hope it didn't take an hour to tell me that.  I'm quite aware that there are MANY places that will sell you another tool when you could have used your pencil, so if there's a guy pointing out.. 'hey- you can use yer pencil' then this is good.

I found one other day, while making dinner.  Guy gonna show how to make a holster pattern.  Naturally, if there's a better way, then show me.  Guy broke it into two parts for whatever reason, and part two plays automatically after part 1.  Part 1 about 10 minutes long... basically he chicken-scratches some marker on a piece of paper.  Part 2 starts.... he points out that in part 1 that was wrong so I want to show you that ....   Now, good for him if he can admit he was wrong.  MY point is,.. why not just delete the 'wrong' video?

And the next one... plays right behind those, I guess u-tube lumped 'subject matter"(?).  There's no discussion- no words at all.  Some music plays in the background while a pair of pudgy hands make marks on a sheet of paper, which I guess is supposed to be a paper pattern for a holster.

Nah... I like to see people actually DOING leather work - not watching tv about it.  Guess I'll stick to the pdf files and still pics   Can't say I don't keep a finger on the line, just in case something changes about them videos ...

 

 

I see now your point, I havent seen this kind of videos you describe, I was lucky I guess.. 

[JLSleather]

By way of reminder, this thread started at poking fun at what was clearly ridiculous.  I'm never surprised at how some people respond when you wiggle their comfort zone just a bit... suggest they 'go beyond' what they now do....

I've seen a couple of George H tandy videos (when recommended by someone).  Maybe that's George's pace.  Or maybe a team of lawyers told him that's his pace.  Whatever.  I can't do that.  But if I met George, I got no issue offerin' the guy a beer or a coffee -- maybe a fishin' rod if he likes that type of thing.

I don't watch much tv anyway.  Didn't even have one for a couple years .... I never watched it, so I gave it to a couple young kids who were getting married and basically had nothing.  Now, I LIKE to have nothing, but some people get a complex about it (governed by someone else's opinions).  Gimme a smart dog, a fishin' pole, and a truck what runs good -- and I'm happy

But then I got married, and SHE thinks everybody needs "stuff".  SO, I have tvs... I think about 5 or 6 of em (don't know why... not my call).  BUT there IS one show I rather like, for people who like videos 'n' such...

Renovation Realities is on the DIY channel.  HILARIOUS.  Basically, some sponsors pay for all the materials and homeowners remodel some part of their home.  I've seen people get beams dropped on or near them.. skid loaders tipped ... one bright fella nearly electrocuted himself MORE than once.  Now, it's funny, because you don't actually believe that the cameramen are actually going to stand there and watch these people kill themselves. Again, I don't watch much tv, so don't ask me what day or time it's on... I just see it when it's there.

[JLSleather]

I am, however, not "ANTI-video".. I just like it to SAY something beyond... hey-I-can-make-a-video-take-all-day-and-say-nothing-new

This one, about a year old, was done to make a few simple points, PLUS amuse my friend Robert ( mecopocketholsters.com ).  In under 10 minutes, you can learn that :

• You can sew 2 layers of 8/9 leather
• You could use 277 / 207 thread with #24 needle combo
• You may opt to stitch after gluing and trimming the parts
• You can stitch natural leather and natural thread, and dye together later
• You may also carve and/or color before stitching
• Jeff doesn’t like more holes in the leather than necessary
• Not critical where you start, when stitching full circle
• You can stitch a small pancake holster in about 9 minutes with an operator who talks too much (prolly half that without the gabbin')

And this much is learned in a few minutes from an unplanned video in a corner somewhere....

 

Edited June 15, 2016 by JLSleather

[Jackmitch]

14 hours ago, niniquesvk said:

I watch tutorial videos from time to time and attend regular classes with old leatherworker. Obviously I learned much more from having teacher and working with him in person, than from watching videos.

But still Im very grateful for having these youtube videos available. Its always good to see how people do things, what tricks, equipment they use..

For example in one of the last Nigel Armitage videos, he mentions using simple pencil instead of awl or spatula to apply edge paint. I tried it and it really works for me too. So, leather youtubers, keep it up, I can only appreciate it.

I do the same thing. It's how I got started. I have seen plenty of needlessly long videos but the bulk of what I know came from Ian Atkinson. He is also chatty but what he says carries substance. His videos are also shot and edited in such a way that makes it a pleasure to watch and easy to learn from. I play it at 1.5x speed though.

[JLSleather]

Okay, I tried. Really I did. Just can't sit through all that.  No matter, it's working for somebody

 

[JLSleather]

Now THAT IS funny.  Little Dude next door just showed up, wants to know if I'll turn on the Wi-Fi.  When I asked 'what for' he says 'just like google n watch stuff'

At age 5, he's already learned that y-tube (not a typo) is what you do when you don't really feel like doing anything.  Pool and trampoline not interesting at the moment, I guess?