Members dallyfoster Posted July 17, 2016 Members Report Posted July 17, 2016 I recently bought a Cowboy Cb4500 and could not be happier with it. I got 277 thread with the machine and two sizes of needles 180/24 and 200/25, in 7x4 Diameter, the 180/24 for if I use the 277 on lighter leathers, but I was looking at perhaps getting some 138 thread thread for some lighter leather projects. On Cobra's website I seen they had some 135x8 that can go up to size 22 needle for use with 138 thread. I was curious what the difference in 7x4 and 135x8 needles in leatherpoints are? I figured I would just order 7x4 in size 23 for 138 thread, but was curious what the difference in the two types of needles are? Quote
Members Ken G Posted July 18, 2016 Members Report Posted July 18, 2016 There is a huge difference between 7x4 needles and 135x7 needles. The 7x4 needles are almost 1" longer and the shank is quiet a bit thicker. You can get 7x4 needles in size 22 or 23 for 138 thread. Quote
Members dallyfoster Posted July 18, 2016 Author Members Report Posted July 18, 2016 So likely I've got 7x4 for a reason for my Cowboy 4500, and should stick with those. I did not know if there was much difference and if it were just a point of preference. Quote
Members LeatherLegion Posted July 20, 2016 Members Report Posted July 20, 2016 I am using 794S , size #23 needles for #138 thread with my CB4500 . Works great on my wallets ...you can see it bellow. Quote
MADMAX22 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 15 hours ago, LeatherLegion said: I am using 794S , size #23 needles for #138 thread with my CB4500 . Works great on my wallets ...you can see it bellow. What is the setup for the feed dog and presser feet that you use for those. Looks good. Quote
Members LeatherLegion Posted July 22, 2016 Members Report Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) I am using a left presser foot for most of my work...if not for everything i made so far . I had to "shave" off the feed dog a bit to work with a custom made plate that has a narrower slot. This way the lighter materials don't "sink" as much in it. Also the new plate doesn't hang over the edge of the arm like the original one ...that allows me a bit more clearance when working on wallets .There are few pics in my gallery here showing that Edited July 22, 2016 by LeatherLegion Quote
Members dallyfoster Posted July 23, 2016 Author Members Report Posted July 23, 2016 On 7/19/2016 at 7:37 PM, LeatherLegion said: I am using 794S , size #23 needles for #138 thread with my CB4500 . Works great on my wallets ...you can see it bellow. Looks very nice. I bought 7x4 leatherpoint needles off of Cobra's webpage, size #23 for the 138 thread that I purchased. Hopefully I can make it look as nicely as your wallet turned out, but I have quite a bit of practice yet to do. I like how minimalist that wallet is, what are the thicknesses of leather you use on it? Quote
Members LeatherLegion Posted July 23, 2016 Members Report Posted July 23, 2016 1 hour ago, dallyfoster said: I like how minimalist that wallet is, what are the thicknesses of leather you use on it? The wallet is made out 4-5oz veg-tan....both outside and inside. I am only using the "S" point needle for everything i make . Thanks !!!! Quote
Members dallyfoster Posted July 23, 2016 Author Members Report Posted July 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, LeatherLegion said: The wallet is made out 4-5oz veg-tan....both outside and inside. I am only using the "S" point needle for everything i make . Thanks !!!! Ok, im new to the whole sewing machine stuff, what is the difference between the 7x4 leather point I bought and the 794s? Quote
MADMAX22 Posted July 24, 2016 Report Posted July 24, 2016 On 7/22/2016 at 0:19 AM, LeatherLegion said: I am using a left presser foot for most of my work...if not for everything i made so far . I had to "shave" off the feed dog a bit to work with a custom made plate that has a narrower slot. This way the lighter materials don't "sink" as much in it. Also the new plate doesn't hang over the edge of the arm like the original one ...that allows me a bit more clearance when working on wallets .There are few pics in my gallery here showing that That looks great, looks like just the key for doing the job. Did you have it made local or have a contact for someone that can make them. Thanks. Quote
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