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  1. dallyfoster

    Needles on Cowboy CB4500

    I recently bought a Cowboy Cb4500 and could not be happier with it. I got 277 thread with the machine and two sizes of needles 180/24 and 200/25, in 7x4 Diameter, the 180/24 for if I use the 277 on lighter leathers, but I was looking at perhaps getting some 138 thread thread for some lighter leather projects. On Cobra's website I seen they had some 135x8 that can go up to size 22 needle for use with 138 thread. I was curious what the difference in 7x4 and 135x8 needles in leatherpoints are? I figured I would just order 7x4 in size 23 for 138 thread, but was curious what the difference in the two types of needles are?
  2. Hi all, I was doing some spring cleaning/maintenance on my Cowboy 4500 today. I got everything dusted and cleaned, back on, put together, and oiled. I turned it on to test without a needle/thread installed and it ran great, the only problem is it runs so great that it runs even when I'm NOT pressing on the foot pedal. I don't think I changed anything, but I suppose it's possible I may have bumped or adjusted something unknowingly while moving the machine. -I can push lightly (about half way) on the pedal and the machine will work normally with the speed reducer function. When I let off the foot pedal, the machine will stop as expected. ***The problem comes when I push all the way down on the foot pedal and then let off, the machine keeps running (needle, feed dogs, foot moving etc.) like it's on the slowest setting. It also makes a fairly obnoxious squealing noise while moving very slowly. I tried moving the link on the chain up and down to change the amount of slack and tension- that doesn't seem to be it. If it's too tight it will run too fast and I don't get the speed reduction. Too loose and it doesn't matter. I even had the chain completely unhooked from the pedal and it kept running. I've narrowed it down (I think) to the black plastic arm on the servo motor that is attached to the foot pedal by the chain. It's not going all the way back up to stop the movement of the machine. I can gently push up on it momentarily with a finger and the machine will stop normally. If I let off the pressure with my finger, it will keep running. I also can apply a little more pressure and the whole black plastic arm will "click" or "snap" back up to a locked position and the machine will remain off. It will start up and run normally when I press the foot pedal, but again when I put it all the way down and release it will not stop completely. I have to manually push this arm up to stop it completely. Again, that's why I thought it might be the chain tension, but had not luck when moving the link and tension. Is there anything you can think of that would fix this? What could I have done to cause it? Could the problem be coming from something else? This machine is only 2 years old, hasn't seen excessive use, and it is well taken care of. I bought it from Toledo Sewing Machine and have never had any problems with it before. I'm really hoping I don't have to replace the motor since it's so new. I took the cover off the servo motor to see if there was anything obviously wrong and couldn't see anything. I'm not super mechanically inclined, so I thought I'd start here with the experts before doing anything. I didn't want to start chasing one problem and create a handful of others. Any help you all could provide would be greatly appreciated. Fingers crossed it is something simple and I can get it back to normal. Thanks in advance, -Hannah
  3. Defiant1531

    Special edition? Cb4500

    I think I have stumbled across a cb4500 special edition but I'm not sure and it is missing everything so my question is it worth buying and piecing together the rest of the parts this is all that is there
  4. The time is coming soon that I am either adding an electric machine to use in addition to my Tippmann Boss, or getting a larger machine to replace it. What I'm looking at is the CB3200 and using that for belts, knife sheaths, some of my holsters and using the Boss for my thicker holsters. Or possibly getting the CB4500 and selling the Boss. I have sewn 5 layers of 9/10oz with my Boss in the past. The only downside was I had to mark my stitch locations and lift the presser foot and move my work to get the stitch length I wanted. Will the 4500 handle that thickness without manually moving the work for 5 to 6 stitches per inch? Will the CB4500 sew thinner material like the 3200? I have used my boss to sew a few lead shot filled suede pouches to use for weights and it did just fine after I adjusted the tension lower. The 4500 package is $1000 more than the 3200 without any extras. I'm guessing I could figure another $300 to $400 for presser feet and edge guide if I choose the 3200? What would the Boss be worth being just over a year old if I decide to sell it? If I go with the 4500, I see no need to keep it, and I am pretty certain whatever I could get out of it would offset the price difference between the two machines I am interested in. Thank in advance.
  5. SkullCanyon

    Cowboy CB4500 for sale

    Hi all, Cowboy 4500 with table, servo motor, lots of thread and needles, inline presser foot, double toe presser foot and like new. $2000.00 OB0 I also have a ton of hand tools as well but not yet sorted for posting. Full shop at a bargain. Location is north central Florida near Lake City. Not interested in shipping, this is a pick up offer only. Best way to get with me with questions is by telephone or PM. Number is 443 553 8365. Thanks, Ken Hopkins
  6. Hi All. I thought I would share my treadle conversion of my machine. We lived off the grid an I decided to convert my machine to work either electrically or with treadle power. Will post an operational video later. Happy sewing. yay now I can post video too.
  7. OldSpanishBitLeatherWorks

    Cowboy Cb4500 - Stitch Length Adjustment

    I've been using the CB4500 for about a week but am having trouble with the stitch length adjustment. Unfortunately, this model doesn't come with a user manual and what I need hasn't been found in YouTube videos. What can I do? Any help would be appreciated.
  8. Parott1

    Cb4500 timing knocked off?

    I bought the cb4500 mainly to sew biothane beta. I swapped out the stock feed dog with a slotted plate, but after some advice from forum members, I put the stock feed dog back in yesterday. After I installed the feed dog I was getting nice stitches, but the knot was in the bottom side of the beta. I tried loosening and tightening the bobbin tension, but as you can see in the pics below, I keep getting loops on the bottom. The thread did get stuck in the shuttle a few times. Every once in a while the top thread breaks by the needle. I'm running size 138 black bonded nylon thread with a #24 794s needle along with a lube pot. The primary thread tensioner (on the side) is as tight as it can get and the secondary (at the top) still has room for adjustment. The top thread tension is already very tight, so I didn't want to keep cramming down on the secondary tensioner. What adjustments would I be able to make on my own without voiding the warranty? . .
  9. ruffwerkz

    The Cowboy Arrived!

    Well I posted here a couple of weeks back trying to get some insight on what to get as far as my first leather sewing machine and I was gonna go with a Cobra 4 but went with the Cowboy instead...well because the "Bob's" are awesome guys! The CB4500 came in yesterday on a rainy day in drought stricken California and I was scrambling to get everything in my "workshop" (read garage, tiny by the way) and with the help of my geezer neighbors the machine was up and almost running in about an hour. By the way, to those new to leather sewing machine....this thing is a BEAST!!! It's heavy as heck and definitely would need another set of arms to help you unpack and get it assembled. The picture in Bob's website doesn't really do it justice and scale...I'm a small guy (5'5") and it's big to me. First thing I did was watch Bob's YouTube video on how to thread it and so I did and tested it on some scraps....smooth as buttah! But it was making a mark so I loosened up the presser feet tension all the way almost popping it out and then loosened the top thread tension just a tad. Some of my scraps had the knot showing on top so I loosened the top thread tension just a bit more and that seemed to fix it...I have to warn you though I had no clue as to what I was doing but fiddling around with tensions and whatnot I finally got it to where I was satisfied. I kept the sample leather that came with the machine just to have a reference on how it's supposed to sew when it came out of Bob's shop. First thing that I noticed, and this is for the newbies on this machine, when you turn off the switch, the servo motor still has a "load" in it and will still move the machine, so make sure to wait a few seconds before fiddling with anything especially with the needle. I will move the on/off switch further out of the table so I could see it easily and I plugged in the lamp which is left in the ON position behind the servo motor so that I know when the machine is ON or OFF and that gives me another way of telling that yes, it's on or yes the needle went through your finger. I like redundant safety systems and so I don't mess anything up because I love my fingers. With that said, I got the hang of the machine last night and decided on making my dog a collar using #277 thread that came with the machine, I stitched at the slowest setting first and bumped it up a couple of notches because the slowest is...yep, reaaallllly slow! I was enjoying the machine last night and the only thing that ruined it was that I have to go to sleep. I'd like to thank Bob and Bob again for being such cool guys and answering all my newbie questions and giving me advice on what to really works with what. I just ordered a lighter spring for the CB4500 and a few more spools of thread and that should tide me over for a bit until I get another machine from him. Wow this was a long'ish post, just goes to show how stoked I am with the machine and if you're trying to decide on what kind of machine to get, I would wholeheartedly recommend the CB4500 or the smaller versions if you don't need this big of a machine. I still have a long way to go but learning from the pros here in LW saved me a lot of time and energy and I'm so glad that I went with the Cowboy.
  10. OldSpanishBitLeatherWorks

    New Member In Orange, California

    I'm a new member in Orange, California, and would like to discuss with others who use leather sewing machines. I recently started using the CowBoy CB4500 and was initially able to sew 6 to 7 stitches per inch. Now it won't do that. Looking forward to hearing from other members near and far.
  11. Well here's my first holster i made with my cowboy machine, boy it is strong ,smooth and quiet. i am amazed how slow you can sew , well im still learning on the holsters, like dying and finishing if you look close at the at the stitching you can see raw leather.. also i want to thank all of you that has helped me with the choice of the machine, leathers, and all the questions i had answered directly or indirectly you guys are the Best!!! thanks, nelson
  12. Can anyone tell me why my thread would be breaking on stingray and how to correct it ,no problem sewing leather, thanks. I searched the archives but nothing came up. I'm thinking I should be using a large needle and smaller thread, maybe less tension? I am using a 23 needle and 138 thread. I suspect the thread is being cut by the calcium. Kevin.