Members shaggs Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 I had a needle pull out and jam while sewing on my Adler, replaced needle and now it wont pick up any stitches...I hear a slight almost seems like a rubbing when I slowly turn the wheel and lower the needle down. Quote
Members cdthayer Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 What's the sub-number if your Adler 205? Grab a third needle and try it to see if it makes any difference. CD in Oklahoma Quote "I sew, I sew, so it's off to work I go....." My sewing machines:Adler 205-370 (Hand Crank), Adler 205-64 (Hand Crank), Consew 226 (Clutch/Speed Reducer), Singer 111G156 (Hand Crank or Clutch), Singer 111W153 (Clutch), Singer 20U33 (Clutch), Singer 78-3 Needlefeed (Treadle), Singer 20U (Treadle), Singer 29K70 (x2) (Both Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 96-40 w/Darning Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 w/Roller Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 (Hand Crank), Singer 16-41 (Treadle), Singer 66-1 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 201K4 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 216G Zigzag (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 319W (Treadle)
Members shaggs Posted November 12, 2016 Author Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, cdthayer said: What's the sub-number if your Adler 205? Grab a third needle and try it to see if it makes any difference. CD in Oklahoma 374 Ive tried many different needles and they're all doing the same thing...they sew a few stitches and then pick up nothing. Quote
CowboyBob Posted November 12, 2016 Report Posted November 12, 2016 It's possible the needle damaged the point of the shuttle,you might want to take the needle plate off & if you turn it slowly you can see the point ,make sure the tip still has a nice looking point on it. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members cdthayer Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 Check your upper threading again. Better yet, take the upper thread completely out and re-thread it. Something as simple as missing the check spring when threading can cause missed stitches. CD in Oklahoma Quote "I sew, I sew, so it's off to work I go....." My sewing machines:Adler 205-370 (Hand Crank), Adler 205-64 (Hand Crank), Consew 226 (Clutch/Speed Reducer), Singer 111G156 (Hand Crank or Clutch), Singer 111W153 (Clutch), Singer 20U33 (Clutch), Singer 78-3 Needlefeed (Treadle), Singer 20U (Treadle), Singer 29K70 (x2) (Both Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 96-40 w/Darning Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 w/Roller Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 (Hand Crank), Singer 16-41 (Treadle), Singer 66-1 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 201K4 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 216G Zigzag (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 319W (Treadle)
Members TinkerTailor Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 Dental mirror and a flashlight, might have a hunk of thread in a waybackthere spot leftover from the jam. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members shaggs Posted November 12, 2016 Author Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) I ve cleaned everything out , its threaded properly...when I watch the stitching cycle it looks like the loop doesnt open enough for the hook to catch it, Ive adjusted the tension and it just doesnt look like its creating that loop. checked the shuttle point and with a thin piece of leather going slow it grabs the loop but any kind of speed and thickness of leather it doesnt seem to make that loop. Edited November 12, 2016 by shaggs Quote
Members cdthayer Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Weak presser foot down-pressure can let your work lift up along with the needle, keeping the loop from forming large enough, but I don't see how dropping a needle would change your presser foot pressure.... CD in Oklahoma ETA: I just thought of something else. I know that you said that it is threaded right, but check close to make sure that your thread isn't looped behind something that is hampering smooth feed of the upper thread. Dropping a needle could cause a quick jerk on your upper thread during the commotion, causing slack in the thread that can get out of place and foul somewhere along the line... Edited November 12, 2016 by cdthayer Thought of something else. Quote "I sew, I sew, so it's off to work I go....." My sewing machines:Adler 205-370 (Hand Crank), Adler 205-64 (Hand Crank), Consew 226 (Clutch/Speed Reducer), Singer 111G156 (Hand Crank or Clutch), Singer 111W153 (Clutch), Singer 20U33 (Clutch), Singer 78-3 Needlefeed (Treadle), Singer 20U (Treadle), Singer 29K70 (x2) (Both Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 96-40 w/Darning Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 w/Roller Foot (Treadle), Singer 31-15 (Hand Crank), Singer 16-41 (Treadle), Singer 66-1 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 201K4 (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 216G Zigzag (Treadle/Hand Crank), Singer 319W (Treadle)
Members Sonydaze Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 I would check both the timing of the hook and the clearance from the hook to the needle. The needle jamming it may have moved the hook. Quote http://www.bound2please.com Sewing machines: 3 - Sunstar 590BL, Artisan Toro 3200, Juki LK-1900HS, Juki DDL-8500-7, Juki DDL-5550N, Pfaff 138-6/21, Pfaff 546-H3, Pfaff 335-H3, Adler 221-76, Singer 144WVS33, Singer 29K-51, Siruba 747B
Members George3 Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 Are you using the same thickness thread. Do you have the corresponding spacer? Quote
Members cowboycolonel Posted November 12, 2016 Members Report Posted November 12, 2016 The tricky thing that a lot of people miss about the 205 series is ther spacer system. Are you sure that you have the proper spacer installed behind the hook? If not, you could be skipping stitches or the needle could be rubbing if the spacer is too small. Quote
Members JREESER1 Posted November 13, 2016 Members Report Posted November 13, 2016 My first needle change from a #23 to #25 resulted in the exact issue you described. After an exhausting and exasperating hour, I found I had the scarf and the groove of the new needle backwards. (Scarf go inside-Groove goes on the outside) I felt so relieved and careless. But it has never happened again since. This may not be you problem, but it is worth a check. jr Quote
Members shaggs Posted November 13, 2016 Author Members Report Posted November 13, 2016 I have a 200 spacer and I am using a NM 200 size 25 needle with #207 nylon thread top and bottom...needle is inserted correct. I am thinking the needle jamming might have moved the hook. It looks like the eye of the needle is slightly lower when it meets the hook, I have never timed a machine, watched some youtube videos. Not many people in my area work on these machines. I would assume a special timing gauge is needed...is timing a machine something that can be learned step by step? Quote
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